Transdermal lecithin (+b5 +keto) protocol that enabled me to eat up to 500g meat and 4000kcal a day
@jjxx I hope you can use some of my experiences to resolve your issues.
I hate the usual "take x for y" style of advice where one cannot actually reproduce what other people did. So I will describe everything in painstaking detail.
1. I bought
Fearn lecithin granules.
2. Generally, I take every supplement (vitamins, minerals, aminos) transdermally because gut bugs love concentrated isolated nutrients. Even
in healthy people, 60% of supplemental choline is consumed by gut bugs. Think of it: you are only the second consumer of what you ingest, they are the first. Adding to that, I have SIBO (proven by methane-hydrogen breath test). Adding to that, I get worse after consuming high-choline foods for a few days (e.g. duck fat), Now, one cannot take granules transdermally. So I take 2mL (with a mL measurement spoon) into a minicup and mix it with oil until the granules resolve. I simply do it with one finger, for a minute or so. But it would probably mix better with one of those mini-mixers usually used for foaming milk for coffee. The oil: I use borage oil, because I have a deficiency of GLA, but it also works with extra virgine olive oil. Maybe water would work even better?
3. Smear it on skin and let it stay there for hours. After a while though, when it dries, it becomes kinda glue, which is no nice, also imo it doesn't resorb any further. So maybe an hour or so after application, I smear olive oil on it (first round: llecithin with borage, second round: olive oil). The olive oil then takes care of the residue. 2 times borage wasnt so good for my skin, first with borage then smear olive oil over it is very much liked by my skin.
Since a week, I try NOW liquid lecithin from sunflower seeds. I thought it would be a good idea as it is already a liquid, so I do not have issues with non-resolving granules. Bad idea: it does not resorb well and it has a smell. Also it has much less choline. My caloric and my meat intake decreased somewhat. I countered by doing it 2 times per day, but it produces a thick layer on my skin.
My next try will be choline bitartrate. I am sure it is easier to apply transdermally than the Fearn granules as it is a powder. Let's see the effect.
Transdermal AGP-choline ("Alpha GPC" by Jarrow, currently 300mg, but start very low!) I use since months. It did not have any effect on calories nor meat consumption. I find this very surprising. Would like to know why.
AGP choline improved my gastric motility and many other things, so I highly recommend it. My newest measurements: my previously poor postprandial intestinal blood flow (superior mesenteric artery) doubled (!!) when comparing to before agp-choline. So it has a chance to help with digestive issues: producing digestive enzymes is energy intensive (in particular gastric acid and pancreas), and resorption needs big blood flow. But in me it had no effect on caloric or protein consumption.
Reading the details you provide,
@jjxx , I feel so similar to you: your situation is like where I started 2014. I was barely able to get any protein at all and hydrolised protein was outright a catastrophy. In me, it was so bad that I was unable to eat any meat or cheese or eggs or fish. I was almost vegan, not voluntarily (but my Indian friends loved it...
). What helped me out of this: Drop all carbs and eat a paleo - ketogenic diet. After a week on raw salads and butter and olive oil, I suddenly started to have a feeling that I could tolerate meat. So it was. Beware: a ketogenic diet cured many people of many things, but it is difficult to get it right. For me it was the last resort that saved my life: I couldnt eat almost anything any more at that time in 2014, slept 20h in 10 days, couldnt climb up stairs nor lift a bag. I was retrospectively diagnosed with ME. After 2 weeks on keto, I carried a 30kg backpack happily for an hour!
Then, a major stage was 7mg transdermal b5 per day, which I do since months. I take it in a saturated solution of Mg-Cl bath salt, which aids resorption (suddenly increases cutaneous blood flow, hence a tiny pain). B5 is needed for CoA production, a major metabolite in the Krebs cycle. It catapulted my caloric intake from 2000 to 3000 kcal (I am tall, I need much).
I had skin probs from Mg-Cl products because cheap ones are not fully cleaned.
This one works for me. I found out that I benefit from copious amounts of Mg-Cl: 30mg of bath granules per day! - diluted in very little water and smeared on skin, much more effective than bathing). B5 and Mg-Cl (and all other vitamins, aminos and minerals and the agp-choline) go on the naked legs, whereas borage and lecithin (and vit D and K2) go on the belly. I found it important to separate these two groups (water vs oil). The water group gets refreshed a few times with Mg-Cl water or plain water, the oil group 1x with olive oil extra virgine. The tshirt gets dirty inside from the oils, its important to change it every day to avoid skin irritation.
Before you start, I strongly recommend you measure caloric and protein consumption. You will never know how your intake actually was before. Also, all this increase in intake came so smoothly in me, I just noticed it, first uncanningly, when looking at the crono charts. Do not push yourself to eat more! At least in me, this was always detrimental (digestion). Just eat to appetite. cronometer.com is for free, there is also a mobile app. Its a pain in the a... to weigh and log all foods, but you can do it for some days. The information is invaluable. And if your outcome is less than mine, say only a 10% increase, you will never know w/o crono.
The increase came in me in a few days.
Now you got all the details
Anyone trying this: I am curious to hear if and how it works for you. And if anyone has explanations why lecithin improves protein consumption in me, let me know!! (a bare guess: maybe lecithin/choline increases bile? Bile is effective against certain gut bugs, actually just the Prevotella that eat choline and carnitine, which is in meat, so I can eat more meat? Though, I didn't have any die-offs. Though, the effect could be preventative: they probably dont multiply well in chyme penetrated with bile)
