subcutaneous fat loss, cracking joints

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But what is causing the SIBO, remains a mystery.
It's the stomach and lack of hydrochloric acid=hypochlorhydria.
Hypochlorhydria refers to a condition where the stomach produces less hydrochloric acid (HCL) than normal, leading to low stomach acid levels. This can cause digestive issues, nutrient absorption problems, and potential bacterial overgrowth
SIBO happens when there is hypochlorhydria and insufficient stomach acid to destroy bacteria which can pass into the small intestine and take up residence feeding on food as it passes through. Often producing gas.

It's where all the problems begin and end. When you understand how the vagus nerve functions it's easy to understand how it partly drives the inflammation from LPS. It also promotes inflammation by an immune system reaction to food which enters the bloodstream when it shouldn't be capable ie before it has been broken down. IgA antibodies should be attached to food molecules signalling that they came via the digestive system and don't need to be attacked as infections. Biofilms don't produce IgA antibodies and therefore the immune system treats food molecules as a threat and attacks them. This produces more inflammation, uses up precious Glutathione and causes damage where antibodies settle in areas where the nervous system has degraded and the nervous system control of the immune system is weakened.
 
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I've experienced alot of "breakdown of fat pads". I have my personal theory on whats going on there.

These fat pads are made up of bundles of protein, wrapped around the fat. It's the loss of the protein. So the fat bundle loses some of its "structural" components. Its mushy.

This has happened intensely to my feet and hands. Fingertips shot. Collapsed.

It also doesn't help that my skin is crepe paper.

Foot wise, if I put on a pair of normal shoes and go out, my feet won't tolerate it for long. I have this expensive pair of really nice sandals, put them on and then: took them off in five minutes.

On a 3 day trip out of town, (in PEM the entire time)...I had brought one pair of comfortable type shoes. And my feet were screaming for my very padded slippers. What a mistake to leave my ugly slippers at home.
Yes, this is exactly what happens to me as well. The fingers, hands and toes, feet, face, and other places like the butt, the fat changed from firm to mushy. It makes me think there has been an epigenetic change, possibly affecting the building blocks as you suspect. In my case, this happened very sudden after a "crash" due to fear and stress. It was like someone turned off a switch: From one day to the next I didn't recognize my body (how it felt physically). Over time the fat layer has diminished as well.

In my case, the muscles are also feeling soft, and they don't produce much energy. The lack of subcutaneous fat is like removing the body's natural insulation, which makes my body very cold. This combined with the fatigue is the worst part. Having to wear multiple layers of clothing and sit near a heater not to freeze even during summer.
 
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I have similar symptoms as @bart32 including subcutaneous fat loss, joint cracking, and muscle atrophy. I haven't had my glucose level checked recently so I can't say if there is a similarity there. My suspicion for myself is catabolic wasting being driven by an underlying disease.

For some background, Figure 1 shows my weight and BMI over roughly the last 5 years. In late 2011, early 2012 I started working out and eating a lot and put on 15-20 lbs. I slowed down with the working out mid 2012 and eventually stopped altogether. Over the summer of 2015 I got a few comments about being skinny from people who know me. In September 2015 I started noticing my joints cracking a lot. This corresponds with the low dip in weight in 2015 in Figure 1. My knees have been the worst. I've noticed weakness in my legs in general. They get shaky after standing for extended periods of time. I also notice if I get to that point, my legs hurt more in the following days or weeks. It's not muscle pain though, it's like the tendons behind the knees constantly ache. A rheumatologist said my knee caps were very loose which indicates thigh muscle weakness and contributes to the cracking. She recommended physical therapy exercises. It's just odd that they would be getting so bad when my routine hasn't really changed over the last few years. It's also hard to say how much of the weight I lost was just due to no longer working out and a lower appetite versus a malignant catabolic process.

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Figure 1. Weight

Regarding fat loss, I seem to be losing it from basically everywhere. The most troublesome is the bottom of my feet. The rheumatologist examined my feet and said the fat pads were very thin. I started noticing this in October 2015. I can no longer walk around on hard floors without some kind of footwear as it's too painful. So now I wear flip flops all the time when I'm inside but the problem remains. My face has also lost fat which is noticeable around my eye sockets and cheeks. The pressure from a pillow can be a bit uncomfortable when I'm laying down on my side due to the reduced padding on my cheek bones. Similarly, my butt and the underside of my thighs get sore from sitting in a chair. I have to avoid hard chairs as they are now very uncomfortable. I also have some pain grabbing things with my hands like door knobs and have to be careful. Since December 2015 I've noticed deep wrinkles in my fingertips on and off as shown in Figure 2.

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Figure 2. Fingertips

They seem to be most prominent after holding something like a phone or steering wheel. They are distinct from the wrinkles caused from being submerged in water. I'm wondering if they're also a sign of fat loss in the finger tips. Anyone else have similar issues?
Same symptoms. Joint cracking and ocasional joint pain with wrinkles on my fingertips exactly like your picture.

How is your lunula?
 
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It's the stomach and lack of hydrochloric acid=hypochlorhydria.

SIBO happens when there is hypochlorhydria and insufficient stomach acid to destroy bacteria which can pass into the small intestine and take up residence feeding on food as it passes through. Often producing gas.

It's where all the problems begin and end. When you understand how the vagus nerve functions it's easy to understand how it partly drives the inflammation from LPS. It also promotes inflammation by an immune system reaction to food which enters the bloodstream when it shouldn't be capable ie before it has been broken down. IgA antibodies should be attached to food molecules signalling that they came via the digestive system and don't need to be attacked as infections. Biofilms don't produce IgA antibodies and therefore the immune system treats food molecules as a threat and attacks them. This produces more inflammation, uses up precious Glutathione and causes damage where antibodies settle in areas where the nervous system has degraded and the nervous system control of the immune system is weakened.
I also suspect that I have low stomach acid, but I’m not sure yet.

Ever since my health issues began, I’ve noticed that my stools are yellow and mushy. I’ve seen that this is common in people with ME/CFS and Long COVID, and it may be related to insufficient digestive enzyme release, which typically requires a properly acidic stomach environment.

However, I do know that I have H. pylori infection, which I haven’t treated yet. I’m hesitant to take antibiotics because I’m worried they might worsen my condition. At the same time, I’m aware that H. pylori suppresses stomach acid as a survival mechanism. It’s a difficult dilemma.

If you were in my situation, what would you do?
 
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