STUDY: Post Covid Health issues

[ebethc]

Study Re Post Viral Issues w Covid and Coronaviruses in general

"LONDON — Roughly one in four hospitalized COVID-19 patients may develop delirium during their illness, and PTSD is a legitimate potential long-term health risk for recovered patients. Those are the disturbing findings from a new piece of research conducted by University College London.
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For example, recovered SARS and MERS patients have reported bouts with PTSD, anxiety, depression, and chronic fatigue. So, there’s a high chance the same problems will arise in COVID-19 patients.
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In total, 65 studies and seven pre-prints were included in this research, all encompassing over 3,500 coronavirus (SARS, MERS, COVID-19) patients. While only hospitalized patients were investigated, some were tracked for periods as long as 12 years after recovery.

They discovered that far more SARS and MERS patients went on to develop PTSD than anyone would expect. Based on a follow-up period of almost three years, nearly one in three recovered patients developing PTSD symptoms. Additionally, 15% of SARS or MERS patients reported depression symptoms roughly one year after recovering, and more than 15% experienced various other problems (constant fatigue, mood swings, sleep disorders, memory issues)."

https://www.studyfinds.org/study-patients-may-experience-delirium-ptsd-from-battling-coronavirus/


I hope the research and treatments for post covid illness stays focused on science vs pop-psychology voodoo (a la PACE trial).. It would be easy to conflate the psychological stress of this w the cognitive/fatigue/memory/sleep issues... It's important to not blend the two...

 

[andyguitar]

PTSD is a legitimate potential long-term health risk for recovered patients.

Some of this might be due to the trauma of being placed on a ventilator and/or the effect of the drugs given to sedate them. So more of an effect of the treatment rather than the infection. This story has been in the news a bit over here. More to come I expect.

 

[Rufous McKinney]

Some of this might be due to the trauma of being placed on a ventilator

spending the equivalent of weeks helpless on a ventilator sounds really- physically overwhelming.

I hope the research and treatments for post covid illness stays focused on science vs pop-psychology voodoo (a la PACE trial).. It would be easy to conflate the psychological stress of this w the cognitive/fatigue/memory/sleep issues... It's important to not blend the two.

Yes, already by simply using terms like depression- for a post viral condition is labelling a psychology when these folks have experienced a profound body-wide invasion by a body snatcher.

 

[ebethc]

Yes, already by simply using terms like depression- for a post viral condition is labelling a psychology when these folks have experienced a profound body-wide invasion by a body snatcher.

Yes, I was concerned about the blending of psych w science.... I hope ppl involved don't make it worse for us..

On a related note, there are ppl in the psych community who are actual scientists ... This is the most sensible thing a psych has ever written... It's in response to the most recent update to the DSM, which was delivered very late and is full of nonsense... From Thomas Insel, former head of NIMH:

"The goal of this new manual, as with all previous editions, is to provide a common language for describing psychopathology. While DSM has been described as a “Bible” for the field, it is, at best, a dictionary, creating a set of labels and defining each. " hahaha....

" The strength of each of the editions of DSM has been “reliability” – each edition has ensured that clinicians use the same terms in the same ways. The weakness is its lack of validity. Unlike our definitions of ischemic heart disease, lymphoma, or AIDS, the DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure. In the rest of medicine, this would be equivalent to creating diagnostic systems based on the nature of chest pain or the quality of fever. Indeed, symptom-based diagnosis, once common in other areas of medicine, has been largely replaced in the past half century as we have understood that symptoms alone rarely indicate the best choice of treatment."

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/directors/thomas-insel/blog/2013/transforming-diagnosis.shtml

 

[andyguitar]

spending the equivalent of weeks helpless on a ventilator sounds really- physically overwhelming.

I saw a short news item on tv with an intensive care specialist. He described being on a ventilator as causing "significant trauma".