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Sleep Issues Amongst People With ME – A Conversation with Professor Dorothy Bruck

Just before Xmas 2010 I was overcome by a bout of Swine Flu. After the holiday, which was a complete blur due to sickness, I went back to work in January feeling very weak. Over the course of the next 8 months, up until my diagnosis of ME, I was afflicted by a bewildering variety of symptoms which caused a great deal of physical and mental suffering. The symptoms which affected me the most in some respects were the unrefreshing sleep and acute insomnia which made me fear that I would lose my job. I was working over 50 hours a week in a very stressful and physically demanding job which I increasingly struggled to keep onto partly due to the lack of sleep/unrefreshing sleep. I noticed a considerable decline in my ability to do some of the basics of my job as I struggled to concentrate and felt increasingly unable to keep up with the very demanding target driven regime at work. Trying to teach a class of 30 teenagers can be hard work at the best of times but when you’re getting 4 hours of unrefreshing sleep it can be a nightmare. Once I received my diagnosis of ME one of the first things I asked my GP for was a course of sleeping tablets to help me overcome the worst of the insomnia.


Since my diagnosis unrefreshing sleep and insomnia have been my constant companions. Sadly, none of the health professionals and scientists I’ve spoken to over the years have been able to offer much insight as to what is causing this and what might help treat it.


There is lack of research into this important aspect of ME. As we all know sleep is the foundation stone of good health for anyone. Those of us who live with dysfunctional sleep all the time it can be very debilitating and have a considerable knock on effect on the other symptoms of our illness.


In a 2012 paper which investigated sleep abnormalities in pwME Professor Bruck noted that they experience insomnia, disturbed sleep, an increased number and duration of intermittent awakenings during the night besides the non-restorative nature of their sleep. She further observed that pwME have a disrupted sleep architecture which is found in the reduced slow wave sleep of pwME compared to healthy controls.


A 2023 review of sleep studies found that ME/CFS patients spend a longer time in bed, take longer to fall asleep, spend more time awake after they’ve fallen asleep, have reduced sleep efficiency, decreased stage 2 sleep, more Stage 3 sleep, and longer rapid eye movement sleep latency. That study suggested that altered sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system activity was keeping people with ME/CFS from getting good sleep.

That conclusion echoed the results of several studies. Back in 2007, a CDC study found that a similar sympathetic ANS dominance prevailed in ME/CFS patients during sleep. A small 2018 study concluded that people with ME/CFS had lower parasympathetic tone in deep sleep (less “rest and digest” during deep sleep) and higher sympathetic nervous system activity (more “fight or flight) overall while asleep. Finally, in 2020, an Australian sleep study concluded that “Autonomic hypervigilance during the deeper, recuperative stages of sleep is associated with poor quality sleep and self-reported wellbeing.”; i.e. the deep, restorative stages of sleep weren’t as deep or restorative in ME/CFS as they were in healthy controls.


Professor Dorothy Bruck

I recently spoke with Professor Dorothy Bruck about her insights into some of the sleep issues which affect people with ME.

Emeritus Professor Bruck’s main area of research interest and expertise is sleep and sleep health. She has been thinking about, and working with, many aspects of sleep for about 40 years. Professor Bruck has had a long academic career at Victoria University in Melbourne, with particular expertise in sleep/wake behaviour, mental health, chronic fatigue syndrome, waking thresholds and human behaviour in emergencies. She has an international research reputation, with over 120 peer-reviewed full-length publications, $2.5 million in competitive grant income, dozens of invited international and national professional speaking engagements, and numerous awards. Professor Bruck’s research has been regularly featured in the media, including Time Magazine and New Scientist. Apart from her academic work Professor Bruck has worked as a sleep psychologist and most recently she was Chair of the Sleep Health Foundation (Australia). She is now semi-retired and lives in the Far South of Tasmania, Australia.


The Gut-Sleep Connection in ME/CFS

Noting that increased levels of faecal gram-positive bacteria have been associated with ME/CFS symptoms (cognitive problems – concentration, excessive irritability, confusion as well as impaired motor coordination), Dr Bruck’s 2015 study used erythromycin to reduce down gram-positive bacteria in individuals with high levels of them. The antibiotic substantially improved sleep times and sleep quality in some individuals, but other symptoms remained.

Dr. Bruck’s larger 2018 follow-up erythromycin/probiotic trial in ME/CFS patients with high gram-negative bacterial counts (Streptococcus) again suggested that the gut may play a role in the poor sleep found in ME. The study found that reduced Streptococcus levels were associated with better sleep (fewer awakenings, greater sleep efficiency and quality) and cognition (attention, processing speed, cognitive flexibility, story memory, and verbal fluency). (Mood and fatigue, however, were not altered.)


Other studies have shown that people with insomnia typically have dysregulated gut flora – a common finding in ME/CFS. Similarly, reduced levels of short-chain fatty acids such as butyrate have been found in both ME/CFS and insomnia. Studies suggest that alterations in the gut microbiome may even be contributing to the changes in circadian rhythms and sleep patterns that Dr. Bruck outlines below, and some studies suggest that gut flora or microbiome manipulation could help. A study using a probiotic bifidobacterium called Longum 1714 improved sleep quality and increased energy/vitality in healthy controls.


5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) was able to improve gut health and sleep in older adults who were experiencing poor sleep. Similarly, a recent animal study found that sleep deprivation both altered the gut flora and increased anxiety levels. Melatonin, a common sleep supplement used in ME/CFS, may work, when it does, in part by benefitting the gut flora. On the whole, though, a review of probiotic and prebiotic use to enhance sleep concluded that while some evidence suggests that altering the gut flora may help with sleep, more and better studies are needed.


How did you get involved in the field of M.E. research?

I have been a sleep researcher since undertaking my Honours degree in 1978, with a particular interest in disorders of excessive daytime sleepiness such as narcolepsy. In 2010 my teenage son was diagnosed with ME/CFS, which left him bed and recliner bound for about 10 of the next 15 years. Remarkably he has now improved sufficiently to hold a job with flexible hours. While he was very sick I met ME/CFS clinicians and researchers in Melbourne and we managed to obtain funding for a series of studies focussing on sleep and gut microbes. We have since published this research with Melinda Jackson and Amy Wallis as the first authors.


In October 2021 the National Institute for Clinical Excellence in the UK issued a new guideline for the treatment and care of people with M.E. This guideline recognised that for a diagnosis of M.E. to be made people had to suffer from four key symptoms. Unrefreshing sleep or non-restorative sleep is recognised as one of the core symptoms of the illness. The sleep disturbance experienced by pwME can be broken down into two categories: disturbed sleep patterns and unrefreshing sleep. Despite this, there is remarkably little research being conducted into this core symptom of the illness. Amongst the limited studies that have been done into this issue there appears to be no consensus as to what is causing the sleep dysfunction among pwME. How would you explain the sleep dysfunction experienced by pwME?


I think the dichotomy between disturbed sleep patterns and unrefreshing sleep is quite useful, keeping in mind however, that a pwME/CFS may have both. Neither are unique to ME/CFS.


Disturbed sleep patterns (where the person is unable to sleep when they want to) may arise from co-morbidities with ME/CFS, such as sleep apnea, insomnia and circadian rhythm disorders. Sometimes the latter two disorders may begin with, or be perpetuated by, behavioural changes in sleep/wake behaviours that lead to disturbed sleep.

  • For example, the fatigue associated with ME/CFS may lead to irregular sleep patterns where the person sleeps episodically (i.e. naps) across the 24 hour period and the circadian (24 hour) rhythm becomes confused. The person’s sleep quality suffers because they are no longer getting their main sleep period in a single block at the time the body clock expects it. A different pattern that we may see in ME./CFS is Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder, where the person is very much an ‘evening’ type, going to bed late and getting up late. People who get insufficient outdoor light during the daytime are particularly susceptible to this. Sometimes their body clock begins to ‘free run’ and each night they may go to bed later than the previous night, so their ‘day’ may be 25 hours instead of 24 hours.
  • Behavioural changes that may precipitate insomnia include decreased sleep drive (or sleep pressure) arising from reduced activity, significant napping during the day, reduced exposure to daytime light, worry at night about the consequences of having ME/CFS, and/or longer time in bed trying to sleep than the actual sleep duration that person may need. For example, due to boredom and/or feelings of fatigue, turning lights off from 9pm to 8am each night (i.e. 11 hours trying to sleep) when the person may only need 8 hours of actual sleep. Best if lights-out time equals sleep time required. The research shows quite clearly that treatment with Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Insomnia can provide significant improvements in people whose sleep has been impaired by such behavioural factors and online programs are available.
On the other hand, disturbed sleep patterns in pwME/CFS may arise, not from behavioural factors, but from factors associated with ME/CFS itself, such as impaired melatonin secretion or other imbalances in the many hormonal or metabolic or neurological factors that we are only now beginning to understand affect sleep patterns. Such imbalances may, in fact lead to either disturbed sleep patterns or unrefreshing sleep.


Unrefreshing sleep occurs across the population, both in people with a range of clinical conditions and sometimes in people with no diagnosed medical problem. It is usually described by self-report. It is likely to be a very heterogenous phenomenon. A study by El-Mekkawy Leqaa et al (2022) noted a significant change in delta wave power (deep sleep) in the temporal brain region in those with unrefreshing sleep arising from sleep apnea, compared to controls. In our review of sleep patterns in ME/CFS (Jackson and Bruck, 2012) we concluded that technological advances in the assessment/monitoring of sleep may lead to further understanding of how the micro-structure of sleep may differ between those with self-reported unrefreshing sleep compared to quality sleep.


Anecdotal evidence from some pwME and a few research studies suggest that the sleep disturbance that people experience can have a significant impact on their cognitive abilities. How prevalent is this? What may be causing the sleep disturbance to impact people’s cognitive function?


Any ongoing sleep disturbance will affect a person’s cognitive abilities. Attention, concentration, memory and reaction time may all be affected in some way depending on (a) their overall health (physical and/or mental) and (b) individual differences in how poor sleep quality affects an individual. It seems reasonable to think that a pwME/CFS that includes the symptom of brain fog would be affected by the cognitive impairments we associate with poor sleep in an additive way.

Is there any evidence that non-restorative sleep is impacting other symptoms which pwME experience such as pain?

I believe that ANY ongoing poor quality sleep, whether it is unrestorative sleep or disturbed sleep will affect a range of ME/CFS symptoms, possibly all. Pain and brain fog are likely to be particularly affected.

With regard to pain we know that sleep loss increases the experience of pain. Krause et al (2019) showed that acute sleep deprivation amplifies pain reactivity within the human primary somatosensory cortex, lowers pain thresholds and that ‘even modest nightly changes in sleep quality within an individual determine consequential day-to-day changes in experienced pain’.


Having a clearer understanding about the pathophysiology of non-restorative sleep in pwME may lead to better treatment options for patients. Are you aware of any clinical trials which are exploring treatment issues for non-restorative sleep in pwME?

Unfortunately not.

Many people with M.E. report that there is a direct link between the degree of their non-restorative sleep and the depth of the fatigue they experience the next day. What research has been done into this particular issue and what were their findings?

To my knowledge this issue has not yet been investigated in pwME/CFS. However, cognitive fatigue as measured on a range of working memory tests (Benkirane et al, 2022) found that the main effect of sleep fragmentation was to increase subjectively reported fatigue rather than reduce cognitive test performance. This study, using healthy participants, highlights the difficulties in objectively measuring fatigue, as many people can rally their mental resources for short-term testing in a research setting. This may have little to do with how fatigue is experienced in real-life settings.

What further research is required to investigate the causes of non-restorative sleep and the impact this has on cognitive function, fatigue and pain in pwME?

There are so many unanswered questions. The first step for any such research is to have a standard definition of non-restorative sleep. Is it a certain level of sleep fragmentation? Sleep disruption? Lower EEG delta power? Subjective report in the light of an otherwise normal sleep diary? Is reported non-restorative sleep the same for someone with sleep apnea, vivid dreaming or ME/CFS?

Many thanks go to Cort Johnson for his important contribution to this article.
 
Don't forget prebiotics and probiotics for your gut health. A prebiotic is a mixture of friendly bacteria which helps to replace and outcompete the bad bacteria which you may have. A probiotic is something to feed the good bacteria, food high in fiber are good for that.
 
Tangential, but you know how people are, and with me being me, since there are only 2 places I've seen that surname I have to at least momentarily wonder whether Dorothy Bruck is in any degree related to the 20th century sci-fi, western, and other, artist Herbert, 'Johnny', Bruck.
 
I've posted a couple of times I thought I had figured out what is causing my problems. In each case I had only tracked down the source of symptoms but not the underlying cause. Now I got it.

For over 15 years I've had a myriad of symptoms ranging from sleep to neurological to immune related to GI IBS related and CFS/ME like overall. I had gone to the Stanford ME/CFS Clinic run by Montoya over 10 years ago and was diagnosed with CFS/ME. Montoya did very little before I moved on looking for the underlying problem. I always new that my issues seem to stem from something going on in my sleep. But I never really knew if it was the chicken or egg. I had multiple sleep studies at Stanford and others locally and at the Mayo Clinic. I'd seen Stanford, UCSF, Mayo Clinic and John Hopkins doctors. The sleep studies showed less than mild obstructive sleep apnea but I tried UPPP surgery at Stanford and 3 different CPAP machines to be absolutely sure. No luck. But over the years my suspicion about something going on while asleep grew. I was 90% sure that something going on while asleep was the underlying cause. But my O2 saturation was always in the 90% range, my OSI index was <5 and nothing was observable on a camera even if I awoke very very ill. Very mysterious!

In 2021 things got far worse during sleep. So I tried a trick. I put a pulse oximeter on my finger before sleep and as my body started to go into that falling asleep mode, I saw my heart rate begin to drop precipitously. Right up to that feeling I was about to fall asleep in that never never land my heart rate was around 60BPM. That's normal. But as I began slipping away it began to drop at about a 1 BPM per second and around 45-46BPM, I began feeling pain all over my body and very ill. That freaked me out and I awoke, stood up and my heart rate immediately went back to about 60BPM and within a minute or so all the symptoms just stopped. So I used my recording pulse oximeter to record my O2 sat and heart rate all night and it showed my O2 sat was in the 90% range but my heart rate dropped quickly upon falling asleep to the high 30's range. I thought I had it. My cardiologist implanted a pacemaker and my heart then would not go below 60BPM. That relieved maybe 50% of symptoms but not everything. So I arranged a sleep study at Stanford and asked specifically for a nasal CO2 monitor. I suspected my heart was not pumping hard enough and maybe my blood pressure was also low or I was hypo-ventilating. Either would cause my problems and lead to inadequate CO2 exhaustion. If CO2 builds up in your blood, your PH drops and will cause respiratory acidosis.

The Stanford sleep doctor forgot the CO2 monitor on the order and then left Stanford before I could get a read out on my study. Another Stanford sleep doctor said my study looked normal. I asked about the CO2 and because she didn't order the study, copped out. I asked to see neurology because its the hypothalamus running the sympathetic nervous system regulating the heart rate, heart contractility and blood pressure in general. She wouldn't help but requested I get a POTS test. Since my problem was sleep only and not awake and I had passed POTS tests in the past while awake but she insisted even if it was silly.

So I decided to find myself a night blood pressure monitor and simply test myself. I also learned that if one has excess CO2 in your blood due to inadequate exhaustion, hyperventilating will clear it and respiratory acidosis will clear and your PH will return to around 7.4 = normal. So upon awaking and feeling terribly sick, I tried hyperventilating for a few minutes and the ill feeling went away in a few minutes. So I tried taking salt tablets before falling asleep and again after waking around 2-3AM and it stopped my IBS-C constipation and most of the remaining symptoms. By eating salt one increases your blood sodium and where sodium goes water follows and the increased blood volume increases blood pressure. Not a good long term solution but a simple way to increase sleep blood pressure for a few nights. It worked.

So then I got an Omron night blood pressure monitor which does 3 readings during the night. It records ones BP using a wrist mellow cuff at 2AM, 4AM and 4 hours after the sleep button is pushed. If I push the sleep button at 11PM, it will do a recording at 11PM + 4 hours = 3AM. That means I get a recording at 2AM, 3AM and 4AM for example. It turns there is a concept in cardiology called dipping. Dipping means your blood pressure dips while sleeping under the control of the sympathetic nervous system that innervates the heart rate and contractility ( how hard it pumps). Most people dip about 10% and its normal and good. But that's the middle of a bell curve and some people actually have a rise in BP = bad while others can have >20% dipping. Those people are classified as extreme dippers. Its actually healthy for the heart since the heart gets to rest during sleep. But if it goes to low, it can cause hypo-tension and tissue perfusion problems and CO2 exhaust problems. I discovered that my blood pressure dips about 25% give or take every night between awake and sleep. Looks like I'm an extreme dipper.

I don't know about hypo-ventilation yet but if my sympathetic innervation is low to the heart, it could also be low to everywhere including my GI tract, my breathing muscles, my adrenal medulla ( low adrenaline as a blood hormone) etc... Normally the hypothalamus monitors the chemo-receptors ( CO2 mostly but O2 less) and baro-receptors (BP) and adjusts the sympathetic targeted outflow and adrenaline release at the various target organs like the heart etc to regulate respiration during sleep. If this negative feedback control loop gain gets down regulated, the set point can be low or loose and then one gets sleep hypotension or hypoventilation or low adrenal adrenaline hormones or insufficient GI motility ( IBS-C) etc...

I don't know yet if its either one or all of the above but raising my blood pressure via a drug called fludrocortisone relieves my symptoms including constipation. But fludrocortisone acts like aldosterone on the kidney causing an increase in sodium retention similar to my salt test. But it builds up and is now causing my daytime BP to rise. So the trick will be to figure out how to raise sleep BP just enough while not messing up daytime blood pressure. That may be tough.

That's where it stands but I thought others could have a similar problem. It can be very subtle and as you have heard from me, very hard to detect. Plus doctors don't tend to think broadly and it took my investigation to find it even after many sleep studies. Love to hear your thoughts.
 
Very interesting. If one of the problems is low oxygen perfusion, would a slow steady amount of 02 alleviate that? Not 100% at high pressure, just a little extra. There is mention of sympathetic activity at night being more than parasympathetic activity. Could we perhaps change that by stimulating the parasympathetic system at night? There are ways to do that.
 
Unfortunately my O2 saturation is already in the mid to high 90% range. Breathing O2 would only raise it a few percentage points. Low blood pressure means low circulation volume = low O2 volume passing through the capillaries and therefore available for perfusion into the tissue. So supplemental O2 doesn't help as I have an O2 concentrator and have tried. Its true that the sympathetic and parasympathetic counter one another. Unfortunately the sympathetic innervates the heart SA node and the cardiac muscle but the parasympathetic has little innervation on the cardiac muscle. So stimulating the parasympathetic can increase heart rate but not contractility much. There is no easy way to make the heart pump harder without interfering with sleep.

The only strategy that works is to use the Kidney based RAAS system and utilize it to increase blood volume while asleep which in turn increases blood pressure. It does work. The best strategy I'm aware of is using Fludocortisone which acts similar to aldersterone. This causes the kidney to reduce its salt excretion into the urine and increase blood sodium which in turn pulls in water driving blood pressure up. The only problem is its level slowly builds over a week or so driving up day blood pressure. So carefully adjusting the dosage and time taking it seems the only way to hold sleep blood pressure up. It does work but its hard to keep steady. I also bought a few external parasympathetic stimulators to try. Not very hopeful but they are ok to try.
 
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