Scoliosis, autonomic dysfunction and oxidative stress

[marcjf]

I think it is good to be skeptical of all "treatments" for anything. In our shoes I find research, research, and more research is best before deciding on anything.
It is far more than just PT they are doing. Here is the link to the Institute and all their programs.
Hruska Clinic

And the founder:
Ron Hruska
There are some short videos near the bottom of the second links page explaining what PRI is.

Why are people traveling all the way to Nevada? According to their website, they have PRI-certified professionals all over the place.

 

[Nord Wolf]

Why are people traveling all the way to Nevada? According to their website, they have PRI-certified professionals all over the place.

It's in Lincoln Nebraska.
I think it is more for the intensive evaluation by their PTs, eye docs, dentists, and to get a full game plan to bring back to one of their trained PTs near to where the person lives. Their institute has everything in-house; all the different specialists there working together, whereas their individual PTs around the country do not have such full range medical accesses working with them. That is my understanding anyway.

 

[Nord Wolf]

An interesting little account:

A colleague of my physical therapist lives and works in Colorado. A family of a woman who was bedridden with dysautonomia contacted her for help. This colleague went to their house and visited with the bed ridden woman to evaluate her condition. She then told the family to get the woman to the Nebraska Institute if they could. The family drove this bed ridden woman to Nebraska where she underwent the full evaluation catered to her bed ridden state. Afterward they drove her home with a treatment plan. The PT in Colorado then started working with this woman based off the Institutes recommendations. She has been making a slow but steady recovery and after 8 months is able to take slow walks down her street. She had been bed ridden for 5 years.

 

[lenora]

I hadn't heard of the institute in Nebraska, but it does take a team of specialists to see the woman and work out a plan. (Which is why people head to places like the Mayo in Minnesota, Cleveland Clinic, the University of Miami - Miami Institute, Barrow Institute, etc.) Thank goodness there are more and more of them. Some are definitely better than others and all should be evaluated every few years.

It's not a guarantee, nothing is, but it gives a PT a sense of direction and, of course, the patient and her family. Five years of being bedridden is something to have to come back from. I hope she'll enjoy the world once again. Yours, Lenora

 

[Oliver3]

An interesting little account:

A colleague of my physical therapist lives and works in Colorado. A family of a woman who was bedridden with dysautonomia contacted her for help. This colleague went to their house and visited with the bed ridden woman to evaluate her condition. She then told the family to get the woman to the Nebraska Institute if they could. The family drove this bed ridden woman to Nebraska where she underwent the full evaluation catered to her bed ridden state. Afterward they drove her home with a treatment plan. The PT in Colorado then started working with this woman based off the Institutes recommendations. She has been making a slow but steady recovery and after 8 months is able to take slow walks down her street. She had been bed ridden for 5 years.

I've been working on my posture. Particularly my walking posture. It seems that causes much less symptoms if I straighten my back out

 

[Nord Wolf]

Been a while! Been wicked busy with the medical system. But we found answers... I detailed in this post today: 15 Years - Finally Figured It Out - Testing Came Through

 

[Nord Wolf]

It looks like new chest x-rays have been ordered. The last ones taken were 8 years ago, so the idea is to get new ones and compare them before looking into more expensive imaging of the heart. I won’t be able to get to the imaging center for two weeks, however.

 

[Methyl90]

Someone pointed out silicon and I particularly agree with its interaction with calcium and vitamin D. We must also admit that if there are skeletal asymmetries, these will be irreversible, very often linked to degenerative and demyelinating processes. Slowing down the progression is key. I speak to you as people affected by these problems 😩

 

[Violeta]

I don't know yet if the information in this thread about posture will hold any value for those with scoliosis, but check it out.

https://forums.phoenixrising.me/thr...depends-on-norepinephrine.86662/#post-2384494

Oh, @pattismith does have a link to info related to scoliosis.

https://treatingscoliosis.com/blog/neurotransmitter-imbalances-mood-disorders-scoliosis-connection/

 

[Violeta]

If you are interested in homeopathic remedies, this site lists remedies for various causes and locations of scoliosis.

https://www.drhomeo.com/homeopathic-treatment/homeopathic-medicines-for-scoliosis/

 

[Wayne]

Have you had much work done for your scoliosis? My sister had bad scoliosis that would have killed her before she reached 16. She had major surgery back then and had bars put in her spine when she was 15.

Hey @Nord Wolf -- When I was doing a lot research on fasting many years back, I ran across an old book written by a chiropractor back in the 1950s. He routinely put his patients on long water fasts to help with some very major back problems. He had before and after pictures (X-rays) in this book, that showed almost unbelievable changes in the spine after fasts of 14-21 days.

I remember seeing pictures of extreme curvature of the spine (scoliosis) becoming almost totally aligned after some of these fasts. Who would have thought that fasting could produce these kinds of results? I have a theory about this, though it may sound a bit esoteric for some.

My Own Theory: I heard (read) many years ago that a perfect "etheric blueprint" is immediately formed at the moment of conception. This blueprint is with us as we go through life, always working to bring our bodies back into an alignment of health. But the connection between this blueprint and our bodies can become weakened over time because of injury, infections, etc. I tend to think that when we fast, we reconnect to this blueprint in a more meaningful way. The degree we can do this then significantly affects the degree to which we can shift our state of health.

 

[lenora]

Well, Wayne, that's certainly an unusual way of looking at things. However, who am I to say, I just know that I'll give that one a pass. I vertebrae slipping and sliding all over the place.....I don't like looking at views of my back as they make me cringe. Of course I'm allergic to doctors, also. Yours, Lenora

 

[Wayne]

I'll give that one a pass.

You betcha!

 

[Nord Wolf]

When I was doing a lot research on fasting many years back, I ran across an old book written by a chiropractor back in the 1950s. He routinely put his patients on long water fasts to help with some very major back problems. He had before and after pictures (X-rays) in this book, that showed almost unbelievable changes in the spine after fasts of 14-21 days.

I remember seeing pictures of extreme curvature of the spine (scoliosis) becoming almost totally aligned after some of these fasts. Who would have thought that fasting could produce these kinds of results?

That is interesting. However, for anyone with a neurological immune disease I just don't think fasting for the length of time would even be possible without causing severe crashes. Perhaps it might be worth a try for those with scoliosis minus some nasty piece of work like ME/CFS?

It sounds like you might be a practitioner of regular fasting? What is the longest fast you've done with nothing but water?

 

[lenora]

@Nord Wolf is a tough man with an interesting history. Life hasn't been easy for him. Yours, Lenora

 

[Wayne]

That is interesting. However, for anyone with a neurological immune disease I just don't think fasting for the length of time would even be possible without causing severe crashes. ... It sounds like you might be a practitioner of regular fasting? What is the longest fast you've done with nothing but water?

Hi @Nord Wolf,

I agree with your thoughts about the high potential for major crashes for a person w/ ME/CFS, or any other major illness for that matter. Perhaps even for healthy people. Fasting in this day and age has unique risk factors, such as high levels of environmental toxins, that didn't exist in most of recent world history,

I do have a fair amount of experience with fasting, having researched it quite thoroughly back in the 1970's. Back then, the two foremost proponents of fasting were Paul Bragg and Paavo Aairola. Paul Bragg was very much into fasting "as nature intended", that is, water only fasts--without enemas. Paavo Aairola was of the mindset that we should take advantage of our brain's ability to improve on things, and strongly promoted juice fasting with enemas.

I leaned toward Paul Bragg's perspective, and at one time "gutted out" 7 days of water fasting. Though it had its moments when it felt something positive was going on in my body, it was for the most part difficult and unpleasant.

I then tried the juice fasting with enemas, and discovered it was MUCH easier and more effective. I felt I could experience some of the spiritual benefits of fasting, along with feeling my body was indeed doing some deep healing from the detoxification process, which was supported by the concentration of nutrients present in the juices. I believe I went 2-3 weeks at one time on the juice fasting regimen, with carrot juice being my primary consumption.

I did all this experimenting because I knew something was not right with my body, and felt fasting held out some hope for a health turnaround. What I now realize is that (probably) most of my health issues were the result of a serious head injury/whiplash I sustained as a 15-year old. I do believe the fasting I did healed some of the aspects of that injury, but not enough to prevent me from deteriorating to debilitating ME/CFS.

Once that happened, I was no longer able to fast without moderate to severe reactions. In fact, I could no longer hardly go longer than 12 hours or so without eating. As soon as I started inching up from there, I could easily experience a growing sense of stress in my body, which could easily escalate if I didn't eat something.

But the positive experiences I had previously with fasting made me believe for many years that if I could ever reach a point of being able to fast again, I might be able to reap some of the benefits I was able to many years ago.

It was 2-3 years ago that I began to experiment with intermittent fasting. I had improved some of my physical resiliency over the years, and decided to very slowly start increasing the amount of time I would spend each day without eating (though I would still drink various liquids such as juices or teas).

I seemed to be able to add about an hour a week, though I had to be very careful while doing it. It was then I drew on some of my earlier research on fasting, and recalled some of the therapies promoted by Anne Wigmore and Hippocrates Health Institute. They routinely used rectal implants of wheatgrass juice to augment the fasting experience, and had great success with it.

So just this past spring, I began to experiment with adding wheatgrass juice powder to my coffee enemas, and it had an immediate impact. I was able to consistently and comfortably increase my intermittent fast intervals up to 18 hours/day. I then began to add turmeric and Methylene Blue. This took me to a whole new level, and I now believe the Methylene Blue knocked out some low-grade fungal infections in my bowel and body.

It was a couple weeks or so later that I began to add 3-5 grams of Sodium .Ascorbate. That was another big step up for me. For many years, I literally had to take a nap almost every day to maintain a certain level of functionality. But after incorporating some of the therapeutic retention enemas, I was finding myself more and more eschewing those naps.

So I'm pretty enthused about where this is all taking me. Life has been very challenging since our house burned down in Oregon 34 months ago. We finally purchased a new home in a place that has cleaner air, and is much quieter, and likely has much less environmental EMFs and various kinds of radiation. The closing was on Friday, and this is our first week in our new house.

As tired as I am from the whole moving ordeal, my new found therapeutic retention enema regimens have proven their value once again. I'm now starting to think in terms of going longer than 18-24 hours of intermittent fasting. I intend to start very gradually lengthening that time to 30 hours, 36 hours, etc. I really don't know what my limit will be.

I don't know that it really matters that much, as I think the intermittent fasting I'm able to currently do is continuing to improve my health in a variety of ways. I plan to again purchase a mHBOT chamber, and do investments in an ozone sauna setup, and various other things to help with the detoxification.

I also want to augment my Methylene Blue regimen with photobiomodulation, which together apparently can significantly improve mitochondrial function. Can't stress enough what a gamechanger MB has been for me--kept me going in a major way through the move this past weekend. By Saturday morning, I thought I was "down for the count", but then decided to take a little more MB. Within about 15 min., I began to experience what felt like a "second wind". Literally saved the day.

I hope this wasn't too much more information than you were asking for..

 

[Nord Wolf]

I hope this wasn't too much more information than you were asking for..

Thanks @Wayne. Yes it was a bit overwhelming to take all in. But most things are these days since my system crashed weeks ago from the heat and wildfire smoke. Been slogging through the days ever since, and 85% of my time is once again grogged out on the couch, blind.

The only fasting I do anymore is the nightly fast of 12 to 13 hours or so. My last food is by 8pm and then I don’t eat anything until about 9 to 9:30 the next morning.

Ugh, that’s all I can manage to dictate right now.

Later.

 

[lenora]

Hi Wolf.....it's good to hear from you BUT I'm sure everyone joins me in thinking of you and your family in this difficult summer. To add flooding and the smoke from the Canadian forest fires to the heat, is awful. I'm sure you can smell it.

You've certainly had a bad year between the winter storms and now this. Let's hope that some of the summer or fall can be salvaged. How are the flood waters?....receding, I hope. Yours, Lenora

 

[Wayne]

Ugh, that’s all I can manage to dictate right now.

Hey @Nord Wolf -- A for effort!

 

[Nord Wolf]

Hey @Nord Wolf -- A for effort!