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I saw it...Has anyone seen this video on Amazon? I feel like I should give this a try...I’m just scared. However I’m also scared of a life of meds and disappointment. Has anyone tried a very extended water fast...
At the end of the day, had it worked I would have stuck with it.
I did fasting 2 days a week for about 3 months.
The sleeping part scared me as well. Was only an issue the first night. Next time I will have to consume some type of electrolyte drink.I watched the film after your recommendation and found it fascinating. Since going Keto I have been able to incorporate some intermittent fasting that seems to help a little bit, and I am keen to try longer fasts for perhaps a day or two, as they once seemed impossible but now increasingly possible with more sustained energy. A friend who is healthy has been doing the carnivore diet with 3 day dry fasts and swears by it for boosting his health and energy, cognition etc. I would really like to try whatever can improve my health but clearly with ME there are parameters to what you can achieve, since hydration and energy intake is kind of vital.
Anyway my plan from here on is to build up slowly from IF to full days water fasting, and then maybe try morning IF dry fasts and then day dry fasts, and then i will see from there how I feel and if it would be possible to go any longer. I find it impossible to sleep if I haven't eaten and am keen to keep a regimented pattern of good sleep which I am managing to achieve at the moment through other means.
Also getting into Ketogenic and occasional carnivore days has brought up a lot of adrenal/cortisol spikes which are under control with tons of salts and electrolytes, I wonder what impact fasting would have and if I still need to use these?
I actually ended up eating less over all, but my body had adjusted to do more with less.
Thus now I gain weight easier, my metabolism is uh' more finicky. This is not a good thing.
Also when I would go into Ketosis due to a prolonged fasting period it really screwed up my immune system and my skin developed the classic Keto Rash, and would get sores that would not heal.
At the end of the day, had it worked I would have stuck with it. It simply was doing nothing other than me sitting around hungry, so there was no reason to continue in particular since I was getting a sore on my hand that would not heal.
So, @Diwi9 how did the ProLon fast go? What did you learn?@Runner5 - Same here, I became interested after going keto and having positive effects (but keto flu is real). I was nervous about doing ProLon, but it's not total restriction. I'm having labs done pre- and post- to determine inflammatory markers. Certainly the program is not for everyone, but it may help some. It was developed by Dr. Longo and there is a lot on YouTube. For me, this is just another health experiment...something we are all familiar with.
Wondering if any of the ME/CFS researchers have looked into it... Wonder also how it would work with the PDH blockade/amino acid burning problem..."The use of the FMD for disease treatment should for the moment be limited to clinical trials unless the doctor determines that there are no viable options and the patient cannot wait until the conclusion of appropriate clinical trials and FDA approval."
ProLon did not go well for me. It sent me into an extended relapse. My brain fog steadily increased and by Day 4, when I couldn't get out of bed, I gave up. My ME/CFS specialist said that others have done well on it.So, @Diwi9 how did the ProLon fast go? What did you learn?