19. Do I still see myself as a patient with CFS?
It's not like giving up smoking FFS.
19. Do I still see myself as a patient with CFS?
So if it is aimed at changing fatigue-related cognitions, why is it recruiting only young people with ME, why is it not also trialling its "Therapy" on children with other diseases which fatigue is a symptom such as children with heart conditions, liver or kidney disease or cancer.
Statement from AYME showing on their website- sorry if already posted.
“The investigators defined recovery post hoc. However, the criteria used to define recovery were not stringent and some individuals who entered the study were already attending school fairly frequently. The investigators used liberal criteria, such as the population mean plus two rather than one standard deviation, as their thresholds for recovery by continuous measures such as fatigue. Therefore, the 63% of patients reported as recovered might have included those who had a significant improvement rather than being fully recovered. This proportion of patients does not detract from the still impressive difference from the 8% of participants who were judged to be recovered after usual care.” — Peter White and Trudie Chalder in accompanying commentary
http://solvecfs.org/recovery-by-internet-cbt-a-closer-look/
This made me chuckle.
Prof Peter White was rather critical of the FITNET results and commented that the definition was not sufficiently stringent, and highlighted the fact that some participants already effectively would have been classed as recovered on entry to the trial.
http://www.ayme.org.uk/newsDo you have a direct link, I can't find it ?
This statement from AYME pains me.
Among other things it states
“What we can offer to children and young people with ME/CFS is help to try and improve their quality of life [with CBT]. For some this is enough - they see a great result and consider themselves recovered. “
But later it says
“...we look forward to a day when ME/CFS can be treated or cured.”
So - CBT isn’t a treatment and recovery is not the same as cure....
The following section is quite irritating.
“...we'd really appreciate the community coming together to support those who would like to be involved in the trial. These 700 children and young people are being courageous enough to try something new; to take the opportunity to try and improve their quality of life; and to hopefully be successful in seeing improvements. The least we can do as a community is support them and offer our encouragement, our well wishes and thanks for making this effort...."
Every patient I know is courageous and tries all sorts of new (for them) things to try to gain some improved function and quality of life. Does AYME’s statement mean that those taking part in FITNET-NHS are more courageous than all other patients?
. Are the 1/3 who even EC can't cure to be required to enter into a state of denial? What if they refuse?
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This statement from AYME pains me.
At the end of the day, we all want the same thing: a world where M.E./CFS no longer exists. And what AYME wants more than anything is to be able to help make that vision a reality faster.
Wow wow wow wow.
Are there no laws in UK against such obvious conflicts of interest?
It is absolutely unclear to me what they are saying: are they saying that people can recover from ME/CFS through just CBT? Are they saying people can't recover, but it can help them cope?CBT actually has a beneficial biological effect; it's a holistic supportive treatment which can aid recovery and is used for a variety of physiological illnesses with good results. Things like improving sleep habits and pacing daily activities can actually support your body to aid it in recovery from a variety of illnesses.
CBT treatment is not a one-size-fits-all solution. Each member of the trial will be assessed and advised on their specific condition to ensure that the CBT provided will be as effective as possible. What we can offer to children and young people with ME/CFS is help to try and improve their quality of life. For some this is enough - they see a great result and consider themselves recovered. For others, it can simply help them get to school a little more often or enjoy more time with friends and family.
Interview: We aim at full recovery
Linde Nijhof (26) works as a psychologist at FITNET. She is involved in the treatment of children and adolescents with CFS.
"FITNET is cognitive behavioral therapy over the internet.The purpose of FITNET is to help children and young people get rid of their fatigue.We aim at full recovery, not at "learning to cope with it". Some find it hard to believe, because they have heard that before. Then you need to remove that doubt. It's important that you enter the treatment with a positive mindset: I can fully recover from CFS by working with the tips and tools of FITNET."
(etc. etc.)
"It's important that you enter the treatment with a positive mindset: I can fully recover from CFS by working with the tips and tools of FITNET."
Good grief, imagine trying that with cancer or MS. Utterly deplorable.![]()