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Sam Carter That was a good letter. Thanks
The term `recovery’ implies a sustained return to symptom-free health with the ability to repeatedly and reliably participate in all aspects of normal life – employment, education, social activities. etc. Without this information it is difficult to conclude that these patients have in fact recovered.
The definition of recovery from any chronic illness is challenging. We therefore agree with Cox (20I3) and Courtney (2013) that no single threshold measurement is sufficient; this is why we measured several domains of improvement and combined them into a composite measure of recovery (White et al. 20l3).
Shepherd (2013) suggests asking patients whether they recovered as a result of [our italics] receiving a treatment; we did not ask this since it is not possible for individuals to ascribe change to one particular source in exclusion from all others, such as regression to the mean or external factors.
And why the hell didn't 22% get to in the headlines? All I remember is 40% = 'moderate'. Now White is using the 22% figure. Could be my foggy-head but I thought it was Bob who had unearthed the 22% figure from the inferno.
One of the concerns raised by some members of this ME Management course I am on was the feeling that we might be expected to embrace the course; that if we didn't it would count against us in terms of benefits etc. It was a fair point - but my issue was with the expectation others might have that we should be experiencing some sort of sustained recovery as a result of CBT GET and SMC.
That if we didn't then inevitably it was our fault. Incidentally, this isn't how our course is being run; but the pressure that has come from PACE and the media, transmitted through the health service, and taken on by patients - whether real, implied or imagined - did lead us to raise the matter.
The more informed health professional will say something like 'It's the best we can offer at the moment and it might not help everybody'. But that never made it into the media. And even I feel an ominous shadow approaching in the shape of the DWP what with the way things are going there.
And why the hell didn't 22% get to in the headlines? All I remember is 40% = 'moderate'. Now White is using the 22% figure. Could be my foggy-head but I thought it was Bob who had unearthed the 22% figure from the inferno.
And why the hell didn't 22% get to in the headlines? All I remember is 40% = 'moderate'. Now White is using the 22% figure. Could be my foggy-head but I thought it was Bob who had unearthed the 22% figure from the inferno.
From White's Reply - first paragraph:
We were talking about this somewhere else recently on PR. Because of what ME is and how it is defined; I wonder if it will ever be possible to ideally determine 'recovery' from a single treatment: if what he says here is true? It seems very strange to me that he should say such a thing. Why use the word 'recover' at all then if it is never relevant?
There has to be something better than simply asking a patient if they found such-and-such a programme 'helpful'. Something that can be applied to fluctuating conditions until such time as a treatment is found that will address the underlying biological process/es. Of course to do that we will need to learn to better define people with ME from people with other things: and that means better understanding what ME is... and perhaps more importantly - isn't.
Dr Shepard didn't phrase his comment in the best way and so White has interpreted as asking do you credit treatment to your recovery.
we did not ask this since it is not possible for individuals to ascribe change to one particular source in exclusion from all others, such as regression to the mean or external factors.
Yes, it's an important issue: the hyping of results.I am all for learning how to better live with a chronic condition: but please don't pretend that these management tools are anything more than they are - or any more useful to someone with ME than they are to someone with Rheumatiod Arthritis.
"Oh no, I feel worse after this treatment! I must be regressing to the mean!"
And as for that "composite measure of recovery" - was that developed post facto or was it in the trial protocol at the start? Because if you decided to custom-blend a "measure of recovery" after your data was already in, that's as good as an admission that you're cooking the books to get the result you want.
They only left (iv) unchanged. They loosened the requirements for the other three.“4. “Recovery” will be defined by meeting all four of the following criteria:
(i) a Chalder Fatigue Questionnaire score of 3 or less [27],
(ii) SF-36 physical Function score of 85 or above [47,48],
(iii) a CGI score of 1 [45],
and
(iv) the participant no longer meets Oxford criteria for CFS [2], CDC criteria for CFS [1] or the London criteria for ME [40].”
What was in the protocol was:
They only left (iv) unchanged. They loosened the requirements for the other three.
PACE Trial protocol: Final version 5.0, 01.02.2006.
p201 A6.31: Six minute walking test
1. Where to complete the test: Measure 10 metres of continuous walking space, which has a level and safe surface. Perform in a 10 metre space. If this is not possible an alternative level surface should be chosen.
2. Tell the participant: "I am going to assess your walking. Please walk as far as you can. I will let you know when 3 and 5 minutes have passed. You should walk continuously if possible, but can slow down or stop if you need to. Please aim to walk as far as you can in 6 minutes. I am not going to give you any encouragement or talk to you during the test as I will be preoccupied counting, although I will say when 3 and 5 minutes have passed."
The walking test was conducted as described by McGavin et al*, but the timing was standardised to six minutes. The test was carried out in a level enclosed corridor 20m long. Each patient was instructed to cover as much ground as possible in six minutes. Patients were told to walk continuously if possible but that they could slow down or stop if necessary. The aim was that at the end of the test the patients believed that they could not have walked any further in the six minutes. Patients were encouraged as necessary and advised when they had walked three and five minutes. The test was repeated twice on the same day with at least three to four hours between tests.
The test was carried out in a level enclosed hospital corridor. Each patient was instructed to cover as much ground as he could on foot in 12 minutes. He was told to keep going continuously if possible but not to be concerned if he had to slow down or stop to rest. His aim was to feel at the end of the test that he could not have covered more ground in the time. A doctor accompanied the subject, acting as timekeeper and giving encouragement as necessary.
"The secondary care studies in Table 2 reported a median recovery rate of 23.5% (range 2–70%). The median proportion of patients who improved during follow-up was 44% (range 38–64%) for the four studies that reported this as an outcome."
urbantravels said:And as for that "composite measure of recovery" - was that developed post facto or was it in the trial protocol at the start? Because if you decided to custom-blend a "measure of recovery" after your data was already in, that's as good as an admission that you're cooking the books to get the result you want.
...The more informed health professional will say something like 'It's the best we can offer at the moment and it might not help everybody'. But that never made it into the media. And even I feel an ominous shadow approaching in the shape of the DWP what with the way things are going there....
Managing claims for chronic fatigue the active way
...The key message is that pushing the limits in a therapeutic setting using well described treatment modalities is more effective in alleviating fatigue and dysfunction than staying within the limits imposed by the illness traditionally advocated by “pacing”. If a CFS patient does not gradually increase their activity, supported by an appropriate therapist, then their recovery will be slower. This seems a simple message but it is an important one as many believe that “pacing” is the most beneficial treatment.
It will likely take time before the general public and some medical professionals accept the findings of this research given that on average it takes seventeen years for research findings to influence clinical practice (Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, 2011).
In the meantime, what can insurers and reinsurers do to assist the recovery and return to work of CFS claimants?
Key takeaways for claims management
- Check that the diagnosis of CFS is correct. Misdiagnosis is not uncommon; one London CFS clinic reported that 50% of patients referred to them with a provisional or definite diagnosis of CFS, did not have CFS. If you have concerns, question the diagnosis and refer to an expert.
- It is likely that input will be required to change a claimant’s beliefs about his or her condition and the effectiveness of active rehabilitation. Funding for these CFS treatments is not expensive (in the UK, around £2,000) so insurers may well want to consider funding this for the right claimants. It may be important to establish that there are no significant obstacles to recovery before embarking on this approach.
- Check that private practitioners are delivering active rehabilitation therapies, such as those described in this article, as opposed to sick role adaptation. Don’t assume that the private provision of services is necessarily of any better quality than the public-funded health service.
A final point specific to claims assessment, and a question we’re often asked, is whether CFS would fall within a mental health exclusion, if one applies to a policy.
The answer to this lies within the precise exclusion wording. If the policy refers to functional somatic syndromes in addition to mental health, then CFS may fall within the exclusion.If the policy doesn’t refer to functional somatic syndromes as well as mental health then it would be difficult to apply.
The point made is that a diagnosis of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis or ME (a term often used colloquially instead of CFS) is considered a neurological condition according to the arrangement of the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) diagnostic codes whereas CFS can alternatively be defined as neurasthenia which is in the mental health chapter of ICD10.
What was in the protocol was:
“4. “Recovery” will be defined by meeting all four of the following criteria:(i) a Chalder Fatigue Questionnaire score of 3 or less [27],(ii) SF-36 physical Function score of 85 or above [47,48],(iii) a CGI score of 1 [45],and(iv) the participant no longer meets Oxford criteria for CFS [2], CDC criteria for CFS [1] or the London criteria for ME [40].”They only left (iv) unchanged. They loosened the requirements for the other three.