gregh286
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I thought I would share some thoughts. Adrenal fatigue is a term often used that may or may not be related to CFS/ME.
I recently had a neuro adrenal panel done with bluehorizon that shows awfully low neurotransmitters across the board.
Attached the results.
Since the results I implemented protocols to support these low figures with incredible success, taking me from around a 40 on bells scale to 80 within 5 weeks.
for comparison, I just completed another test, i would be surprised if they did not improve significantly from the 25/01/16 test. Will post them next week after them come back.
From adrenal/HPA perspective, I noticed so many triggers in past 4 years, like i am sure many on this forum do:
i. Stress events/cortisol spikes will create a mini or full crash episode.
ii. Nightmares also create a mini crash, obviously creating a flight or fight state in sleep, pressuring adrenals for extra epinephrine and making next morning tougher....
iii. Morning worse, possibly caused by pre wake cortisol spike....adrenal pressure.
iv. Missing sleep or wakening pre 5am can actually create a good day next day, as cortisol spike avoided.
v. Adrenaline surge, etc, another crash instigator...
And yes, I am aware that urine neurotransmitter tests not accurate, blah, blah, but they paint a PICTURE of some description,,,and grossly out of range on all of them is no fluke. Walks like a duck.....
Adrenal fatigue is a bit misleading term in my opinion, more like adrenal deregulation, or poor adrenal capacity,,,either way the levels of neuros are not what they are supposed to be, call it as you will. It does explain somewhat the vastly widely ranging number of symptoms, lack of serum biomarkers and prehaps why women tend to outnumber men in CFS.
To add to the whole picture, in amino test, I was grossly low in tyrosine, gluatmine, and serine.
No prizes for guessing what they do......precursors for neuros.
More to follow soon.............
I recently had a neuro adrenal panel done with bluehorizon that shows awfully low neurotransmitters across the board.
Attached the results.
Since the results I implemented protocols to support these low figures with incredible success, taking me from around a 40 on bells scale to 80 within 5 weeks.
for comparison, I just completed another test, i would be surprised if they did not improve significantly from the 25/01/16 test. Will post them next week after them come back.
From adrenal/HPA perspective, I noticed so many triggers in past 4 years, like i am sure many on this forum do:
i. Stress events/cortisol spikes will create a mini or full crash episode.
ii. Nightmares also create a mini crash, obviously creating a flight or fight state in sleep, pressuring adrenals for extra epinephrine and making next morning tougher....
iii. Morning worse, possibly caused by pre wake cortisol spike....adrenal pressure.
iv. Missing sleep or wakening pre 5am can actually create a good day next day, as cortisol spike avoided.
v. Adrenaline surge, etc, another crash instigator...
And yes, I am aware that urine neurotransmitter tests not accurate, blah, blah, but they paint a PICTURE of some description,,,and grossly out of range on all of them is no fluke. Walks like a duck.....
Adrenal fatigue is a bit misleading term in my opinion, more like adrenal deregulation, or poor adrenal capacity,,,either way the levels of neuros are not what they are supposed to be, call it as you will. It does explain somewhat the vastly widely ranging number of symptoms, lack of serum biomarkers and prehaps why women tend to outnumber men in CFS.
To add to the whole picture, in amino test, I was grossly low in tyrosine, gluatmine, and serine.
No prizes for guessing what they do......precursors for neuros.
More to follow soon.............
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