PEM in CFS/ME must had abnormal muscle pain?

[BerlianCahyadi]

Hello i'm new in this forum. Actually i'm a bit confused about the real definition of PEM. Is this condition like doubled your fatigue after exercise or increasing muscular pain or what?

I'm still doubt if i having CFS/ME or not because the PEM thing. I hope someone will explained to me. Thank's.

 

[Mary]

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[Belbyr]

I've always understood it as feeling sick after exercise. I experience premature nausea, fatigue, weakness, and a very quick build up of the 'muscle pump' feeling. I can crash for as long as 3-5 months in some instances too.

Read this and see if you could have that test done somewhere maybe... https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2...system-is-broken-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/

 

[Learner1]

This article discusses PEM. It can include pain, but it is not a requirement.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4295644/

 

[Murph]

I think any abnormal feelings of fatigue, sickness, pain, irritability, brain fog that occur after exercise qualify as PEM. You can be especially sure it's PEM if it happens on delay, e.g. onset 12-24 hours after exercise.

 

[Wolfcub]

Yes mine is a sort of relapse of symptoms plus exhaustion that is out of proportion. Exhaustion so I start to tremble slightly. The symptom relapse usually (for me) includes an inner tremor, weakness, sometimes loss of appetite and sometimes weirdly increased appetite which feels strange. Always tiredness and some lower back pain, sometimes slight nausea and/or a slightly "fluey" sensation. My legs don't ache and my arms/neck etc don't ache, so muscles don't ache, as such. That's just me.
It can be hard to track down PEM for me because it doesn't come straight away after extra stress or exercise. It can take 2 days to happen. Nasty little devil.