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Placebo effects are weak: regression to the mean is the main reason ineffective treatments appear to work
by David Colquhoun
This blog sets out some of the reasons that we should be suspicious of people telling us the placebo effect demonstrates "the power of the mind over the body". It argues that most of the placebo effect is artefactual. That is, there's no real underlying change to the illness being treated, it just looks as though there is.
The blog focuses particularly on what they call the "get-better-anyway effect", which can make it look as though people have improved from a placebo treatment, when really the placebo had nothing to do with it. The "get-better-anyway effect is defined like this:
The get-better-anyway effect doesn't mean the person's cured or even recovered. It just means that most illnesses have fluctuating symptoms and that people are most likely to seek treatment when their symptoms are at their worst. Chances are, they'll soon be heading back into a better period, if thy just wait long enough.
In the comments section (also by David Colquhoun)
Okay, so he only mentions big pharma and what he calls "quacks". But psychotherapy and other behaviorual therapies are also benefiting massively from this effect.
by David Colquhoun
This blog sets out some of the reasons that we should be suspicious of people telling us the placebo effect demonstrates "the power of the mind over the body". It argues that most of the placebo effect is artefactual. That is, there's no real underlying change to the illness being treated, it just looks as though there is.
The blog focuses particularly on what they call the "get-better-anyway effect", which can make it look as though people have improved from a placebo treatment, when really the placebo had nothing to do with it. The "get-better-anyway effect is defined like this:
blog said:You tend to go for treatment when your condition is bad, and when you are at your worst, then a bit later you’re likely to be better
The get-better-anyway effect doesn't mean the person's cured or even recovered. It just means that most illnesses have fluctuating symptoms and that people are most likely to seek treatment when their symptoms are at their worst. Chances are, they'll soon be heading back into a better period, if thy just wait long enough.
In the comments section (also by David Colquhoun)
I’m not doubting that genuine placebo responses exist, and can be measured in experiments that are designed to find them. But the empirical evidence suggests that they provide little or no benefit to real patients. That being the case, their possible mechanisms (endorphins etc) are not only speculative, but are also of little interest.
The main reason why people appear to respond to dummy pills (or to no treatment at all) is nothing to do with placebo responses: it is a statistical artefact. The principle has been understood for over 100 years, so it isn’t obvious to me why it isn’t better understood. I guess one reason is that understanding it may well reduce the income of both big pharma, and of the legions of quacks, who are eager to sell us things that don’t work.
Okay, so he only mentions big pharma and what he calls "quacks". But psychotherapy and other behaviorual therapies are also benefiting massively from this effect.