Multiple scerosis is a psychiatric disorder

[Gerwyn]

multiple sclerosis has no known cause so it is a psychiatric disorder

gulf war syndrome,ptsd are also psychiatric disorders

Stomach ulcers dyspepsia and circadian rhythm disorders were psychiatric but they are not now

How can something be a psychiatric disorder and then not be if it was a psych disorder in the first place?

 

[Advocate]

Don't forget tuberculosis. People got it because they had a tubercular personality.

 

[Frickly]

Don't forget autism, difference being, the mother had a psychiatric problem.

 

[Tammie]

all those (excpet PTSD - have not heard anything about this being changed from a psych disorder) were thought to be psych disorders until physical evidence was introduced....the fact is that the evidence finally proved the psych camp wrong....though I think it is utterly stupid to assume that somethign is a psych disorder simply bc the Dr cannot figure it out, at least in these cases, they did bow to the real evidence.......the part that doesn't make sense is that with CFS there is substantial physical evidence and they still want to say it is a psych disorder (what makes that even worse is that in the case of MS, the evidence that proved it is physical was the brain lesions....well CFS pateinst get brain lesions, too, so why in our case is that not enough, but in MS it is?)

 

[Gerwyn]

all those (excpet PTSD - have not heard anything about this being changed from a psych disorder) were thought to be psych disorders until physical evidence was introduced....the fact is that the evidence finally proved the psych camp wrong....though I think it is utterly stupid to assume that somethign is a psych disorder simply bc the Dr cannot figure it out, at least in these cases, they did bow to the real evidence.......the part that doesn't make sense is that with CFS there is substantial physical evidence and they still want to say it is a psych disorder (what makes that even worse is that in the case of MS, the evidence that proved it is physical was the brain lesions....well CFS pateinst get brain lesions, too, so why in our case is that not enough, but in MS it is?)

excellent point somatoform syndrome is a dustbin diagnosis and should be confined to one!

 

[Marco]

Quite simple really. Doctors are educated people who are taught to believe that they are the brightest, sharpest and never wrong, or at least shouldn't be seen to be.

If they can't diagnose an illness using their standard tests and can't offer the patient any help, this makes them feel bad and a little inadequate. Doctors don't like this, they don't like or respect patients opinions and in fact many doctors don't even like their patients. So if they can't be wrong and their tests can't be wrong then the patient must be wrong, ergo a psychiatric problem.

Luckily for them they have a symbiotic relatonship with their psychiatric breathren. Classifying a patient as having a psychiatric illness relieves the doctor of having to deal with a patient who frankly makes them feel bad while delivering and funding patients to a branch of medicine that really should have died out last century.

Doctors, psychiatrists and politicians are all happy. The problem patients are gone, the treatment regime is cheaper and it plays to their pre-conceived prejudices of the deserving and undeserving poor.

With everyone happy (almost) its easy to dismiss any physical evidence as fringe, not-replicated, propaganda, abberrant or, given that the condition is now regarded by the consensus and psychiatric, ideopathic and therefore not worthy of consideration.

Of course once the truth comes out, as in H Pylori and stomach ulcers, its all absorbed into the mainstream. Quietly, without fuss, apology or compensation.

 

[Gerwyn]

Quite simple really. Doctors are educated people who are taught to believe that they are the brightest, sharpest and never wrong, or at least shouldn't be seen to be.

If they can't diagnose an illness using their standard tests and can't offer the patient any help, this makes them feel bad and a little inadequate. Doctors don't like this, they don't like or respect patients opinions and in fact many doctors don't even like their patients. So if they can't be wrong and their tests can't be wrong then the patient must be wrong, ergo a psychiatric problem.

Luckily for them they have a symbiotic relatonship with their psychiatric breathren. Classifying a patient as having a psychiatric illness relieves the doctor of having to deal with a patient who frankly makes them feel bad while delivering and funding patients to a branch of medicine that really should have died out last century.

Doctors, psychiatrists and politicians are all happy. The problem patients are gone, the treatment regime is cheaper and it plays to their pre-conceived prejudices of the deserving and undeserving poor.

With everyone happy (almost) its easy to dismiss any physical evidence as fringe, not-replicated, propaganda, abberrant or, given that the condition is now regarded by the consensus and psychiatric, ideopathic and therefore not worthy of consideration.

Of course once the truth comes out, as in H Pylori and stomach ulcers, its all absorbed into the mainstream. Quietly, without fuss, apology or compensation.

spot on most psychologists think that psychos are psycho

 

[alice1]

I am so lucky and thankful that my psych doc is human and believes all his patients who have cfs/ebv/me do.