Esther12
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This Times article is a big step in the right direction.
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The article gets some very good points in, but also reads as if the editor has insisted on some "balance". Many of the points that we don't agree with seem worded to invite correction, for example it doesn't say "scientists have received death threats", but "scientists have complained of death threats", which is true, they did complain. Now in the comments section or on the letters page it can be added that in court this complaints were found to be without substance and the existence of this "small group of people" found to be wildly speculative.In The Times: "At times the dispute has become so bitter that scientists have complained of death threats."
Wasn't this said to be bull**** by the tribunal?
dear oh dear of dear - do journalists really think co-authors and friends of Peter White are the best people to comment on PACE?
"He was defended by George Lewith, professor of primary care at Southampton University, who was not involved in the original research. He said the field was in danger of becoming politicised. “I’ve worked in the area for ten years, and I’ve been appalled by what has happened. There’s a small group of people with fixed and opposing views, and they want to torture the data until it proves what they believe. I think there’s a great danger people will stop doing research because it’s so confrontational.”
Maybe someone should pass on to my old friend George that his old friend Jo thinks he is making a fool of himself. The only people with fixed views who tortured the data to prove what they believe were the PACE authors. If George does not understand the basic incompetence of the PACE trial design he has no business being a professor and should go back to being a first year student. The truth is that at last the PACE trial is being unpoliticised. It is now an issue of science and it is seen to be very bad science. If people who do bad science are discouraged by confrontation we should all give three cheers. Every single scientist from another discipline I have met who has encountered the PACE story agrees that the trial is hopelessly flawed. It is only the ME/CFS physicians who are frightened by not having something to recommend who support it.
Just thinking - does the above article mean that White and Co shared data from PACE with Lewith also -- add him to the list of people White shared the data with - while denying the rest of us.
The Times article says he wasnt involved in the PACE trial - but he was involved in publishing results from it, ie this article -- whats with that for framing the distance between commentator and independent comment?
I doubt they would do much now its printed - but you go ahead and contact them if you wish, I've already taken some action on this - but others are free to point this connection out to the journalist in question.
He may possibly be the only person who's ever made anyone worse with Homeopathy.I was foolish/desperate enough about my ME many years ago to see Dr Lewith a couple of times. He used his magic black box (hocus pocus) to 'diagnose' and decide which of his many expensive potions to prescribe. They didn't help and made me so nauseous I gave up. I wonder whether he's still doing this. If so, what on earth Southampton is doing giving him a professorship.
He obviously diluted his treatment too much making it too powerful...May possibly be the only person who's ever made anyone worse with Homeopathy.
Seriously bro', don't mess with that shit, it's dangerous:May possibly be the only person who's ever made anyone worse with Homeopathy.
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