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I just want to document a major improvement reported by a ME/CFS patient after taking the supplement C60, otherwise known as "buckyballs" or buckminsterfullerene.
Prior to taking C60, this patient probably had moderate level ME/CFS, but C60 allowed him to return to work as a teacher (which I guess means he is now somewhere between mild and remission).
The patient does not want to be named, but reported his success with C60 to a PR forum member, who then communicated it to me. Here is a summary of what he reported:
This ME/CFS patient said that after taking C60, his state of awareness became very acute so that he felt like he was 'living in the now". He said that everything became crisp and clear, and that he started feeling alive and alert in a way he could not remember being before.
He mentioned that as a result of C60 he started getting beautifully profound sleeps, with vivid and pleasant dreams, and started waking up refreshed. He found his decades-old need for an afternoon nap completely disappeared. He said he looks and feels fresher brighter and younger. He says that an aliveness and zest for life has been unleashed by C60, and that he has not felt as well, energetic, focused and attuned since his 20s.
This was all reported early in 2018, and apparently the benefits are still holding up 10 months later.
In terms of dosage, he started with 1 ml per day (contains 0.8 mg of C60). The benefits appeared within days and weeks.
I am just paraphrasing from what this ME/CFS patient wrote (I don't want to quote him directly, because he wanted to remain anonymous).
C60 is a molecule consisting of 60 carbon atoms that are arranged into a sphere shape. This article says that C60 locates itself in the mitochondria, where it acts as a reusable antioxidant. Though this paper says it is actually the malonic acid derivative of C60 (rather than C60 itself) that locates to mitochondria, where it likely acts as a MnSOD superoxide mimetic, providing antioxidant protection for mitochondria.
C60 is usually sold and is taken in olive oil, and this mixture is sometimes referred to as C60-OO.
The C60 molecule, made from 60 carbon
atoms arranged as a sphere
Many people on the Longecity.org forum have been trying C60 over the last 6 years: they have a sub-forum dedicated to C60. There is a poll on Longecity.org that attempts to quantify the effects of C60.
Facebook groups here, here and here.
Here is a SelfHacked summary of C60.
On the PR forum, this ME/CFS patient reported improvements on C60. But here an ME/CFS patient reported long-term adverse effects that appeared after taking C60.
CAUTION: C60 in olive oil is a fairly experimental substance, and sold on the assumption that it is not for human use (that gets the suppliers off the hook if you experience adverse effects). I have read accounts of people getting adverse effects from just one dose. I experienced some very mild adverse effects myself when taking C60 (detailed below), although nothing of major concern.
When buying C60 in olive oil, you want to find a high quality supplier. There are reports of fake C60 being sold. Also if C60-OO is exposed to light, it can create toxins and likely carcinogens, so it is important that manufacturers and users protect their product from light.
From my research, high quality sources include:
USA:
https://carbon60oliveoil.com — $16 for 30 ml at 0.8 mg/ml. Free US shipping.
https://www.goodandcheapc60oo.com — $19 for 100 ml at 0.9 mg/ml. Free US shipping. Intl. shipping $10.
UK:
https://www.carbon60oliveoiluk.com — £50 for 100 ml at 0.8 mg/ml. Free UK shipping
The UK company is a distributor of the US carbon60oliveoil.com product. These products were the ones used by the above ME/CFS patient.
MY OWN BRIEF EXPERIENCE WITH C60: I took a single 1 ml dose of C60 in olive oil, and found that the immediate effects were good (although mild): some increased conscious awareness, especially for the visual environment, and some mildly increased energy. And I felt calmer.
Then the next day I was hit with a mild mental health crisis, with some depression, more fatigue, and some very mild psychosis (but these are mental symptoms that I find drugs and supplement sometimes trigger in me anyway, and I find these symptoms often appear without any specific trigger).
I also felt like the C60 had triggered some PEM (even though I did not do much physical or mental exertion), and it took around 2 days for this PEM to clear.
After this mild adverse affect I did not try another dose. However, I want to experiment with C60 some more at some point, but will need to buy some fresh supplies, as the shelf life of an opened bottle of C60 is around 30 to 60 days (though an unopened bottle has a 2 year shelf life, according to a manufacturer). Ref: 1
Prior to taking C60, this patient probably had moderate level ME/CFS, but C60 allowed him to return to work as a teacher (which I guess means he is now somewhere between mild and remission).
The patient does not want to be named, but reported his success with C60 to a PR forum member, who then communicated it to me. Here is a summary of what he reported:
This ME/CFS patient said that after taking C60, his state of awareness became very acute so that he felt like he was 'living in the now". He said that everything became crisp and clear, and that he started feeling alive and alert in a way he could not remember being before.
He mentioned that as a result of C60 he started getting beautifully profound sleeps, with vivid and pleasant dreams, and started waking up refreshed. He found his decades-old need for an afternoon nap completely disappeared. He said he looks and feels fresher brighter and younger. He says that an aliveness and zest for life has been unleashed by C60, and that he has not felt as well, energetic, focused and attuned since his 20s.
This was all reported early in 2018, and apparently the benefits are still holding up 10 months later.
In terms of dosage, he started with 1 ml per day (contains 0.8 mg of C60). The benefits appeared within days and weeks.
I am just paraphrasing from what this ME/CFS patient wrote (I don't want to quote him directly, because he wanted to remain anonymous).
C60 is a molecule consisting of 60 carbon atoms that are arranged into a sphere shape. This article says that C60 locates itself in the mitochondria, where it acts as a reusable antioxidant. Though this paper says it is actually the malonic acid derivative of C60 (rather than C60 itself) that locates to mitochondria, where it likely acts as a MnSOD superoxide mimetic, providing antioxidant protection for mitochondria.
C60 is usually sold and is taken in olive oil, and this mixture is sometimes referred to as C60-OO.
The C60 molecule, made from 60 carbon
atoms arranged as a sphere
Many people on the Longecity.org forum have been trying C60 over the last 6 years: they have a sub-forum dedicated to C60. There is a poll on Longecity.org that attempts to quantify the effects of C60.
Facebook groups here, here and here.
Here is a SelfHacked summary of C60.
On the PR forum, this ME/CFS patient reported improvements on C60. But here an ME/CFS patient reported long-term adverse effects that appeared after taking C60.
CAUTION: C60 in olive oil is a fairly experimental substance, and sold on the assumption that it is not for human use (that gets the suppliers off the hook if you experience adverse effects). I have read accounts of people getting adverse effects from just one dose. I experienced some very mild adverse effects myself when taking C60 (detailed below), although nothing of major concern.
When buying C60 in olive oil, you want to find a high quality supplier. There are reports of fake C60 being sold. Also if C60-OO is exposed to light, it can create toxins and likely carcinogens, so it is important that manufacturers and users protect their product from light.
From my research, high quality sources include:
USA:
https://carbon60oliveoil.com — $16 for 30 ml at 0.8 mg/ml. Free US shipping.
https://www.goodandcheapc60oo.com — $19 for 100 ml at 0.9 mg/ml. Free US shipping. Intl. shipping $10.
UK:
https://www.carbon60oliveoiluk.com — £50 for 100 ml at 0.8 mg/ml. Free UK shipping
The UK company is a distributor of the US carbon60oliveoil.com product. These products were the ones used by the above ME/CFS patient.
MY OWN BRIEF EXPERIENCE WITH C60: I took a single 1 ml dose of C60 in olive oil, and found that the immediate effects were good (although mild): some increased conscious awareness, especially for the visual environment, and some mildly increased energy. And I felt calmer.
Then the next day I was hit with a mild mental health crisis, with some depression, more fatigue, and some very mild psychosis (but these are mental symptoms that I find drugs and supplement sometimes trigger in me anyway, and I find these symptoms often appear without any specific trigger).
I also felt like the C60 had triggered some PEM (even though I did not do much physical or mental exertion), and it took around 2 days for this PEM to clear.
After this mild adverse affect I did not try another dose. However, I want to experiment with C60 some more at some point, but will need to buy some fresh supplies, as the shelf life of an opened bottle of C60 is around 30 to 60 days (though an unopened bottle has a 2 year shelf life, according to a manufacturer). Ref: 1
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