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I want to gather some literature regarding actions of Mn in the nervous system, and also to compare it with actions of nitric oxide, guessing that Mn may act sometimes at least in the same direction (if not through NO?). I am not aware of any research having looked at it, and making considerations. It may well be that in the GABA system the actions differ as they are controversial for NO.
The main point though is that I think Mn may be a good candidate for impacts like in ME/CFS, maybe in both direction (too high or too low Mn). My further - unprovabale - guess is that he brain uses metals to encode geometrical actions of great spacial extend, so synaptical over a long distance e.e.g foreward, or foreward-round, or turning-around the vertical axis (mainly being asymmetrical therefore). My impression is that Mn would act in a "pinning" manner, therefore maybe reinforcing other actions, but in itself without direction. This could be unfavourable and leading to disruptions. Albeit unprovable for the next 20 years or so minimum, the following literature is also thought to be able to underly this bold guess.
It might take time to comlete the list, the two most important influences may be:
The linkage from the immune system to the nervous system, see for a summary the introduction by Filipov et al 2008 in this thread, post1. And:
Glutamate synthase from the ovine brain is a manganese (II) enzyme
Wedler et al 1982
from the Abstract
The main point though is that I think Mn may be a good candidate for impacts like in ME/CFS, maybe in both direction (too high or too low Mn). My further - unprovabale - guess is that he brain uses metals to encode geometrical actions of great spacial extend, so synaptical over a long distance e.e.g foreward, or foreward-round, or turning-around the vertical axis (mainly being asymmetrical therefore). My impression is that Mn would act in a "pinning" manner, therefore maybe reinforcing other actions, but in itself without direction. This could be unfavourable and leading to disruptions. Albeit unprovable for the next 20 years or so minimum, the following literature is also thought to be able to underly this bold guess.
It might take time to comlete the list, the two most important influences may be:
The linkage from the immune system to the nervous system, see for a summary the introduction by Filipov et al 2008 in this thread, post1. And:
Glutamate synthase from the ovine brain is a manganese (II) enzyme
Wedler et al 1982
from the Abstract
The activation of ovine brain glutamine synthetase by Mn(II) or Mg(II) was studied by steady-state kinetics. The metal ion concentration was varied at several fixed concentrations of ATP, and vice versa, and the resultant kinetic curves were analyzed according to the method of London and Steck [London, W. P., & Steck, T. L. (1969) Biochemistry 8, 1767-1779].
The data for Mg(II) indicated optimal activation at Mg:ATP = 2:1, whereas that for Mn(II) occurred at Mn:ATP = 1:1. This was interpreted as indicating formation of Mg . E . Mg . ATP as the subunit complex of optimum activity with Mg(II) (pHopt 7.5).
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Thus, it appears that four Mn(II) are very tightly bound per octamer and that four more Mn(II) can bind tightly.
Neither Mg(II) nor Ca(II) at 50 mM can displace Mn(II) from the Mn4 . E complex, but Mn(II) still binds tightly to apoenzyme or Mn4E in the presence of 50 mM Mg(II).
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The total intracellular concentration of Mn(II) in ovine brain tissue was determined to be 1.9-2.6 microM, whereas the free [Mn(II)] was below 0.5 microM. Since the enzyme binds Mn(II) in preference to other divalent ions, it appears that the enzyme may exist as a manganoenzyme in vivo.
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Biochemistry. 1982 Dec 7;21(25):6389-96.
Biochemistry. 1982 Dec 7;21(25):6389-96.