Martial
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Hi guys, I got into a discussion with someone in a forum group who seems convinced that long term neurological lyme disease infection is an illness equivalent to AIDS.
She showed me several studies and sites making broad sweeping claims, with certain research studies. How chronic lyme disease permanently damages B cells in the body.
And the condition not to be curable. I wanted to share the info here to see what others think. I don't think it has much truth in it myself.
But I don't have enough of a science background to really make a rebuttal statement. I just think it all sounds pretty over the top and un true. Anyways here is the info.
"Once your immune system is tolerized to something it is not able to recognize it and fight it. It can happen via a tick bite or the Lyme vaccine.
Both are driven by OspA (OspA should NEVER be in a vaccine as it is the same as what the spirochetes shed and fungal)
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Spirochetes are their own phylum, a relapsing fever germ where they continuously shed their outer surface known as antigenic variation, as the CDC crook Alan Barbour calls it "blebbing", by evading the immune system to dodge a septic cytokine storm.
The shed outer surface is fungal, known as OspA or Pam3cys, a highly toxic permanent immune suppressing TLR2/1 fungal antigen. They immediately travel to the lymph nodes in the first 24 hours of infection permanently damaging B-cells.
The immune system is then tolerized to no longer recognize this or any other pathogens, becoming the breeding ground for opportunistic infections such as EBV, coxsackie, herpes viruses, cytomegalovirus, candida, streptococcus, mycoplasma, etc.
A B-cell AIDS outcome or Post Sepsis Syndrome. A permanently destroyed immune system and opportunistic infections as the driving force in this neurological chronic fatiguing massacre what we call, "chronic Lyme disease". OspA alone causes Post-Sepsis Syndrome via vaccine or tick bite.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26457672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22227568
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16479520
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../pmc/articles/PMC3714565/
http://mobile.the-scientist.com/.../researchers-finding...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC182019/
https://rjspiritualityandthetruthab...d-by-outer-surface-proteins-shed-by-borrelia/
Not related but here are some more recent research studies done on Lyme disease that I have found as well.
On B cells
http://www.jimmunol.org/content/jimmunol/early/2012/04/30/jimmunol.1103735.full.pdf
On Mitochondria
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392059/
She showed me several studies and sites making broad sweeping claims, with certain research studies. How chronic lyme disease permanently damages B cells in the body.
And the condition not to be curable. I wanted to share the info here to see what others think. I don't think it has much truth in it myself.
But I don't have enough of a science background to really make a rebuttal statement. I just think it all sounds pretty over the top and un true. Anyways here is the info.
"Once your immune system is tolerized to something it is not able to recognize it and fight it. It can happen via a tick bite or the Lyme vaccine.
Both are driven by OspA (OspA should NEVER be in a vaccine as it is the same as what the spirochetes shed and fungal)
----
Spirochetes are their own phylum, a relapsing fever germ where they continuously shed their outer surface known as antigenic variation, as the CDC crook Alan Barbour calls it "blebbing", by evading the immune system to dodge a septic cytokine storm.
The shed outer surface is fungal, known as OspA or Pam3cys, a highly toxic permanent immune suppressing TLR2/1 fungal antigen. They immediately travel to the lymph nodes in the first 24 hours of infection permanently damaging B-cells.
The immune system is then tolerized to no longer recognize this or any other pathogens, becoming the breeding ground for opportunistic infections such as EBV, coxsackie, herpes viruses, cytomegalovirus, candida, streptococcus, mycoplasma, etc.
A B-cell AIDS outcome or Post Sepsis Syndrome. A permanently destroyed immune system and opportunistic infections as the driving force in this neurological chronic fatiguing massacre what we call, "chronic Lyme disease". OspA alone causes Post-Sepsis Syndrome via vaccine or tick bite.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26457672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22227568
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16479520
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../pmc/articles/PMC3714565/
http://mobile.the-scientist.com/.../researchers-finding...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC182019/
https://rjspiritualityandthetruthab...d-by-outer-surface-proteins-shed-by-borrelia/
Not related but here are some more recent research studies done on Lyme disease that I have found as well.
On B cells
http://www.jimmunol.org/content/jimmunol/early/2012/04/30/jimmunol.1103735.full.pdf
On Mitochondria
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392059/