Bob
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Really Kurt, then we will have to assume that Dr Alters comments recently, mean that Alter is indeed contaminating hes own samples. Not to be correlating with the CDCs testing. Because if we find out at some point Alter is not contaminating hes own samples ( to explain the negative positive discrepncies of the NIH CDC ) then those comments Will really be in trouble. Once one trusted groups Testing is shown to have problems ( CDC Alter NIH ) then likely possibly others do too. Its not clear whats going on yet is it. but either Alter is indeed contaminating hes samples ( but apparently they are testing negative to that ??? )
Or the CDCs testing ( and by virtue maybe others too ) really is in trouble. The discrepencies reported by Alter recently should have alarm bells ringing loud and clear. Really those that belive testing is fail proof. probably are hoping Alter is contaminating hes samples because if hes not. There goes your 100% fail proof belief on all or most of the 0/0 studys. Maybe Alter is contaminating hes samples. But i guess the guy isnt a idiot. and is testing for all possibillities ? whats the truth. At the moment we dont know. But Alters recent comments are alarming to say the least. If people are convinced as you are Kurt. that the testing is fail proof. Untill we know more. theres indications that it is just not so. But i agree. maybe we will find Alter has contaminated hes samples. But is that likely if the testing is showing otherwise ?
Here's some of my thoughts about contamination:
It seems that most scientists are now accepting that XMRV is a real virus, and that it's not contamination from mouse DNA or mouse MLV's.
So I think that this should move the contamination debate onwards somewhat, although I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.
It seems that the new line coming from the contamination theorists is that Judy Mikovits is detecting contamination from the cell line.
All the contamination theories have changed, as all the scientists have come to realise that XMRV is a real virus after all. But Judy's research has not yet been proved to be at fault. So it will be interesting to see where the contamination theorists move their position to next.
Alter and Lo did test for mouse contamination, with what they considered to be the best methods available to them.
But it is now being suggested the XMRV is contamination from a cell line.
I don't know if Alter and Lo have checked for contamination of PMRV's or XMRV from a cell line.
However no one has yet suggested that PMRV's might be contamination from a cell line.
So it's all getting very complex, and it seems remarkable that Judy and Lo should be the only ones to detect this real virus, whether from a cell line or not.