High Dose Testosterone

[.jm.]

well, I'm seeing the endocrinologist on Monday and this is in our list of things to try over the next few months.

In particular, my Estradiol is in the ~80 range whereas a few years ago, it was in the 200-300 range.
Testosterone, I didn't get back yet, but I expect is below 20.

We will increase my testosterone to the 50-60 ng/dl range, And I'll propose taking my estrogen back to the 200-300 pg/dl range.

I also see Dr. Chia again in about two weeks.

 

[TiredBill]

Testosterone may very well work for others but mine is at 1132 ng/dL, normal is 250-1100 and I still feel like complete and utter crap lol

Are you supplementing?

When my levels inadvertently got as high as yours I was very surprised that I didn't feel as good as I did in the high 700s. At 300, I was becoming incapacitated.

Perhaps if you are on TRT you could work with your physician to see if there is a level that works best for you?

In my case it didn't solve ME/CFS--still plenty of struggles there--but it did life an additional burden that I really couldn't bear.

Best in figuring it out.

Bill

 

[nryanh94]

Are you supplementing?

When my levels inadvertently got as high as yours I was very surprised that I didn't feel as good as I did in the high 700s. At 300, I was becoming incapacitated.

Perhaps if you are on TRT you could work with your physician to see if there is a level that works best for you?

In my case it didn't solve ME/CFS--still plenty of struggles there--but it did life an additional burden that I really couldn't bear.

Best in figuring it out.

Bill

Not using TRT as I’m 24 and want to preserve fertility. I’m taking Chlomid to help jump start my pituitary, (I have a pituitary tumor in addition to my Me/cfs that messing with my hormones)

My estradiol and estrone are really high as well so we’re working on bringing those down

 

[heapsreal]

Not using TRT as I’m 24 and want to preserve fertility. I’m taking Chlomid to help jump start my pituitary, (I have a pituitary tumor in addition to my Me/cfs that messing with my hormones)

My estradiol and estrone are really high as well so we’re working on bringing those down

Clomid is an artificial estrogen so will give you a false high reading on blood work. Minimal estrogen effects other than blocking the estrogen receptor.

 

[Louie]

Testosterone may very well work for others but mine is at 1132 ng/dL, normal is 250-1100 and I still feel like complete and utter crap lol

As I mentioned above in this thread I did not notice an improvement with TRT that only put me at the top of the range, but now have improvement with a blood testosterone level of 2900 ng/dl.

So it seems you have to go well over the normal testosterone range to get an improvement.

 

[heapsreal]

As I mentioned above in this thread I did not notice an improvement with TRT that only put me at the top of the range, but now have improvement with a blood testosterone level of 2900 ng/dl.

So it seems you have to go well over the normal testosterone range to get an improvement.

I was in contact with a dr who treats hiv pts with testosterone as a part of his plan. He said he believes that many immune compromised people may have androgen resistance, so may require high doses. Some guys feel great with T levels at 700 others need higher doses, trial and error.

 

[Perrierson]

True.
There is a talk my nancy klimas somewhere on utube and she is talking in New Zealand. She mentions that there seems to be a group of cfsme guys who have low T that improve alot on trt. She also said that sometimes it can take 12 months or so to feel better on trt. Maybe it takes 12 months for testosterone to repair things??? She never mentions the dose used.

Blast and cruise method might be good for cfs guys. Higher doses from 300 to 500mg per week for several weeks than back to 150mg etc or add another compound like nandrolone for awhile. Health benefits of nandrolone can occur with small doses like 100mg per week, help with joint pains etc. I guess its a blast and cruise lite??

Could you share the Limas video with me, you can reply here. I can’t find it and would really help convince my doctor who respects klimas

 

[heapsreal]

Could you share the Limas video with me, you can reply here. I can’t find it and would really help convince my doctor who respects klimas

I had a quick look but I couldn't find it. It wasn't a specific talk on testosterone treatment but a lecture on many things/treatments etc on cfsme. The lecture wasn't in anymore depth than I originally posted about her.

If you search testosterone and anabolics in HIV , you can find info on how these substances help and improve the immune system.