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I'd say experience. We're all honorary women once you've got ME.Where is the evidence for that? I have never heard of any suggestion to that effect.
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I'd say experience. We're all honorary women once you've got ME.Where is the evidence for that? I have never heard of any suggestion to that effect.
I'd say experience. We're all honorary women once you've got ME.
I agree that the comments are favourable on the whole. I wouldn't bother overly much about which comments have the most upvotes; the way to get the highest upvotes on The Guardian comments section is to get in the first five and say something, anything, fairly reasonable.Just read the top 20 comments or so. As of THIS MOMENT, there are three comments that would be unpopular on these forums, but all three make sensible (even if incorrect or irrelevant) points. One is basically "ME is a misleading name, yay SEID!"; another makes sensible points about the interactions between the physical and the psychological; the third one is from a patient who claims to have benefitted from GET, but is careful to point out that he wasn't cured.
I'd say discussion is going pretty favorably...
Now now, no need to get hysterical.Where is the evidence for that? I have never heard of any suggestion to that effect.
Actually the NICE guidelines have recommended CBT and GET since 2007 (before the PACE trial was published).Guardian said:Graded exercise and CBT came to be the standard treatments for patients on the NHS as a result of a hugely controversial £5m trial – known as the Pace trial
MrsSowester said:People with ME don't denigrate mental illness, they forced to constantly repeat the fact that ME isn't a mental illness because it isn't. It is as simple as that.
I've got an apple, you've got an orange mate! My apple categorically isn't an orange. That doesn't mean I dislike your orange. That doesn't mean I look down on your orange. It just means my apple is not the same as your orange.
Now you can paint my apple orange and call it an orange, but it will still be an apple.
And you can give it all the orange specific medicine you like but it wont get any better because it is an apple, it will always be an apple, it needs apple specific medicine because it is an apple.
People with ME don't denigrate mental illness, they forced to constantly repeat the fact that ME isn't a mental illness because it isn't. It is as simple as that.
I've got an apple, you've got an orange mate! My apple categorically isn't an orange. That doesn't mean I dislike your orange. That doesn't mean I look down on your orange. It just means my apple is not the same as your orange.
Now you can paint my apple orange and call it an orange, but it will still be an apple.
And you can give it all the orange specific medicine you like but it wont get any better because it is an apple, it will always be an apple, it needs apple specific medicine because it is an apple.
@Mrs Sowester "I've got an apple".........'they' would simply tell you you only think it's an apple.
Dont talk to me about Showalter, or the disgraceful absence of critique of Hystories from academic feminists. So much for sisterhood. Again, the only significant critiques of Hystories was from ME advocates Kennedy and Schweitzer.
Thank you, I'm far too tired to think about this logically - and he could sooo easily be taken down if I had my wits about me today! He's just told me I'm detracting from the real suffering of people with this condition with evidence free misattribution and persecution paranoia.I'm Hamster100. ....will join you @Mrs Sowester .
Just call him a nob or something.Thank you, I'm far too tired to think about this logically - and he could sooo easily be taken down if I had my wits about me today! He's just told me I'm detracting from the real suffering of people with this condition with evidence free misattribution and persecution paranoia.
Just call him a nob or something.
*expert advice*
Nothing to see here, move right along.Might I refer you to your comments of a few minutes ago on the Jerome Burne thread?
Beautiful, I was thinking along those lines actually!Just call him a nob or something.
*expert advice*
Well you're doing better than me!I tried....@Mrs Sowester.....not a very good retort I'm afraid .