Fluoxetine a potential enterovirus antiviral

SilverbladeTE

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*COUGH* pardon my EXTREME distrust of this
while it maybe be perfectly valid research...given the nature of whom owns (or owned) the patents etc...unless this drug is being researched by 100% "free agents", and the patent has expired, I wouldn't trust it.
Sorry that is really how how much I have come to distrust any study related to the Pharma Corps :(

Anyone have any info on the "neutrality" of the researchers? and my sincere apologies to them, but my fears have good cause, sigh.
the damage done by that damn drug, or rather, it's abuse/mis-selling, is immense and has been very largely covered up, as usual.
I don't forget it was touted as the "wonder drug" and handed out willy-nilly.
Hopefully the patent etc is up so it's "generic", and that would mean less fears on such abuse.

ALL medical research should be completely divorced from commercial gain
the pharma corps keep trying to find new "fields" to sell their poisons to...which completely obscures/perverts the perfectly valid research and very hard work of finding new uses for compounds.

more reason for a *legally binding with severe penalties for abuse* "Hippocratic Oath" for research and Science.
There must be absolutley no doubt as to the valiity of research and data, or it undermines everything.
hm, wonder if anyone has started a, oh, organization for researchers etc who wish to show their ethical neutrality, publicly?

very unpleasant to feel so jaundiced about what maybe very damn useful research :(
 
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I collected a list of references on drugs and supplements that have been proven (in published studies) to have an antiviral effect on enteroviruses.

You can see this list here: List of supplements and drugs that are antiviral for enteroviruses

It is interesting that some supplements are pretty potent: for example, bael fruit powder (Aegle marmelos) was comparable in strength to the antiviral drug ribavirin. (Ribavirin has been used by Dr Chia as an anti-enteroviral, in combination with IV interferon.)

I have done some short term (1 week to 1 month) tests on myself with these anti-enteroviral drugs and supplements, but only mild benefits were noted. But 1 month may be too short a time to test these medications properly, as many antiviral drugs seem to take 3 to 6 months to work in the context of ME/CFS treatment.
 
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Hip said:
I collected a list of references on drugs and supplements that have been proven (in published studies) to have an antiviral effect on enteroviruses.

You can see this list here: List of supplements and drugs that are antiviral for enteroviruses

It is interesting that some supplements are pretty potent: for example, bael fruit powder (Aegle marmelos) was comparable in strength to the antiviral drug ribavirin. (Ribavirin has been used by Dr Chia as an anti-enteroviral, in combination with IV interferon.)

I have done some short term (1 week to 1 month) tests on myself with these anti-enteroviral drugs and supplements, but only mild benefits were noted. But 1 month may be too short a time to test these medications properly, as many antiviral drugs seem to take 3 to 6 months to work in the context of ME/CFS treatment.
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Hip,

Thanks for your list of enterovirus antivirals and experience with them. Very helpful information.

Wish we knew more about the UCLA research. Were researchers randomly testing existing drugs for antiviral effect or were they just focused on Fluoxetine? They appear to be pediatric infectious disease specialists. Hopefully Dr. Chia is aware of their work and plans if any for additional enterovirus antiviral research.
 
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Gemini said:
Hopefully Dr. Chia is aware of their work and plans if any for additional enterovirus antiviral research.
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The problem with these anti-enterovirus compounds is that I think most will just target the regular lytic enteroviruses, but will not touch the intracellular non-cytolytic enteroviruses that also co-exist in chronic enterovirus infections. Dr Chia believes these intracellular non-cytolytic enteroviruses may be a major contributing cause of ME/CFS, in addition to the regular enteroviruses.
 
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