Reading_Steiner
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My understanding of this chemical is that it is a component of the Kreb Cycle or Citric Acid that is either generated in large quantities in a healthy person during completely aerobic respiration or it is present in a certain quantity, and gets essentially recycled over and over, but can be depleted or increased somehow over time. According to @joshua.leisk this chemical is substantially reduced in at least some cases of what we call 'ME/CFS' for want of a better understanding, to the point where if we take it in small quantity ( around 25 mg I think ), we notice a big physiological difference almost immediately, he says this is a precursor step to test whether the person is suitable for his ( work in progress / not peer reviewed etc ) HHV-6 antiviral treatment plan.
To my confused brain even, this made some kind of sense, if the chemicals are not going all the way around the 'circle' and are being diverted at a certain point, then this chemical might not be generated in our cells like normal. Adding it could allow the completion of a segment of the 'circle' that's normally inaccessible due to lack of reagents.
In my opinion this is simply the logical progression of other work done by many labs on metabolic and metabolomic abnormalities with cell respiration processes in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome ( something about Complex V and increased Glycolysis ? ( breaking up sugar to get a bit of energy quickly, a bit like Anaerobic respiration I believe ) and also Increased Lactate ( lactic acid, the thing when you over exercise and get stitch ).
I had faith in Joshua's theories and therefore I quickly bought this drug from Ebay, it came in a box with a Russian name, its alternative name is apparently Amber Acid. Some googling shows that it is used to treat people who have genetic mitochondrial conditions ( a special part of the cell responsible for producing energy which sort of is a primitive cell in itself, that evolved in parallel ). The dosage for that use is 500mg, but the tablets I received were 100 mg, I cut one into 1/3.
When taking the tablet it did taste very acidy as expected, I drank it with tea quickly so the acid didn't get to my teeth. I don't know if that's the right or wrong thing to do.
Almost immediately I felt a strange sensation in the throat / chest area that I don't think was placebo, its hard to explain what it felt like, my speculation is that the chemical was getting directly into the cells and energizing them or something.
After a few minutes, I felt a feeling of relaxation. My heart rate seemed to decrease to normal levels, the aches and general negative feelings in my muscles seemed to slowly abate.
There was no real psychoactive effects, or huge rush of adrenaline or anything. Instead what I noticed is what felt like aerobic respiration beginning to occur, its a feeling that I haven't experienced in a long time, similar to when someone is running or cycling, except I was standing still.
Not long after this I felt a clarity in my brain and a sense of returning to normal,
its difficult to describe, I looked out of the window at some birds flapping their wings at each other and I felt a new capacity to perceive what was happening, this experience carried through to driving my mobility scooter, I was able to perceive the terrain and instantly make decisions of how to navigate it much easier than normal, sort of like going up from 1080p to 4k resolution.
I went upstairs twice, the first time at nearly normal speed, second time I slowed a bit, but still a big improvement, I didn't feel as much 'payback' at the top of the stairs as normal, walking in general was improved and I felt a little lighter but still not normal. I didn't try walking long distance.
Another thing I noticed was that while down at the park, the air seemed... different, it felt like the air I was breathing was overly pure, too pure ? probably a consequence of a normal respiration system with no 'air hunger' or lactic acid blood. I confirmed then that my heart rate was still slowed, calm, completely different to before I took the drug. I started to feel a little tired after around 45 minutes, but not ill tired just normal tired. I can't really tell but I imagine the effects of this drug last 2 to 3 hours. I am certain that none of this is a 'placebo' effect, as I was completely wiped out last night, and had to generate a lot of willpower to get out of bed this morning, generally feeling stiff and incapable of physical activity.
To my confused brain even, this made some kind of sense, if the chemicals are not going all the way around the 'circle' and are being diverted at a certain point, then this chemical might not be generated in our cells like normal. Adding it could allow the completion of a segment of the 'circle' that's normally inaccessible due to lack of reagents.
In my opinion this is simply the logical progression of other work done by many labs on metabolic and metabolomic abnormalities with cell respiration processes in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome ( something about Complex V and increased Glycolysis ? ( breaking up sugar to get a bit of energy quickly, a bit like Anaerobic respiration I believe ) and also Increased Lactate ( lactic acid, the thing when you over exercise and get stitch ).
I had faith in Joshua's theories and therefore I quickly bought this drug from Ebay, it came in a box with a Russian name, its alternative name is apparently Amber Acid. Some googling shows that it is used to treat people who have genetic mitochondrial conditions ( a special part of the cell responsible for producing energy which sort of is a primitive cell in itself, that evolved in parallel ). The dosage for that use is 500mg, but the tablets I received were 100 mg, I cut one into 1/3.
When taking the tablet it did taste very acidy as expected, I drank it with tea quickly so the acid didn't get to my teeth. I don't know if that's the right or wrong thing to do.
Almost immediately I felt a strange sensation in the throat / chest area that I don't think was placebo, its hard to explain what it felt like, my speculation is that the chemical was getting directly into the cells and energizing them or something.
After a few minutes, I felt a feeling of relaxation. My heart rate seemed to decrease to normal levels, the aches and general negative feelings in my muscles seemed to slowly abate.
There was no real psychoactive effects, or huge rush of adrenaline or anything. Instead what I noticed is what felt like aerobic respiration beginning to occur, its a feeling that I haven't experienced in a long time, similar to when someone is running or cycling, except I was standing still.
Not long after this I felt a clarity in my brain and a sense of returning to normal,
its difficult to describe, I looked out of the window at some birds flapping their wings at each other and I felt a new capacity to perceive what was happening, this experience carried through to driving my mobility scooter, I was able to perceive the terrain and instantly make decisions of how to navigate it much easier than normal, sort of like going up from 1080p to 4k resolution.
I went upstairs twice, the first time at nearly normal speed, second time I slowed a bit, but still a big improvement, I didn't feel as much 'payback' at the top of the stairs as normal, walking in general was improved and I felt a little lighter but still not normal. I didn't try walking long distance.
Another thing I noticed was that while down at the park, the air seemed... different, it felt like the air I was breathing was overly pure, too pure ? probably a consequence of a normal respiration system with no 'air hunger' or lactic acid blood. I confirmed then that my heart rate was still slowed, calm, completely different to before I took the drug. I started to feel a little tired after around 45 minutes, but not ill tired just normal tired. I can't really tell but I imagine the effects of this drug last 2 to 3 hours. I am certain that none of this is a 'placebo' effect, as I was completely wiped out last night, and had to generate a lot of willpower to get out of bed this morning, generally feeling stiff and incapable of physical activity.
