Excellent Dr John Chia Video Explaining the Mechanism of Enterovirus ME/CFS and Detailing Treatments Like Oxymatrine

sometexan84

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Perhaps the reason most people do not develop ME/CFS after an enterovirus infection, but a few people do, might simply be down to whether the virus travels along the vagus and into the brain. If you get ME/CFS after an enteroviral infection, maybe that is simply a result of the virus entering your brain. That's a possibility which seems reasonable to me.
I kind of think that a virus in your vagus nerve and/or brain is something that would cause crazy strong symptoms. Including obvious autonomic dysfunction symptoms, crazy headaches, I mean, tons of stuff. At this point, I only have mild symptoms. I haven't had any bedridden days in 1 full month. My only issue for this last month is that I still have to sleep for 12 hours.

The treatment I'm on now seems to be working, thus far.
 

sometexan84

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There have been very few brain autopsies on deceased ME/CFS patients, but three brain autopsies which were conducted all found enterovirus infection in the brain. See this article.
Dude! My point exactly. All these people were suicides or attempted. They must have had CRAZY symptoms that neither you or I could even relate to.

It just sux that Dr Chia is the top enterovirus CFS mind, and all we have is info he gave us from 10 years ago.
 

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I kind of think that a virus in your vagus nerve and/or brain is something that would cause crazy strong symptoms. Including obvious autonomic dysfunction symptoms, crazy headaches, I mean, tons of stuff.

That's pretty much what ME/CFS patients have, if you look at the symptoms listed in the CCC definition of ME/CFS.

Obviously not all ME/CFS patients are bedbound or housebound. Some have mild ME/CFS and are able to work. But for the moderate and severe cases, you are hit with numerous strong and nasty symptoms all around.
 

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But we would all have Meningitis and Encephalitis if that were the case.

Not necessarily: when an infection enters the brain, it may spread slowly, rather than cause a major acute infection like encephalitis.

There is some research which has connected herpes simplex infection of the brain to Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's patients may also have Chlamydia pneumoniae infection in their brain. But I don't think Alzheimer's patients normally experience an episode of encephalitis prior to their disease onset.

The protozoan parasite Toxoplasma gondii, which you can catch from cats, is another pathogen found in human brains: around 10% of the population have this parasite living in their brain. This can alter personality and behavior; but in most cases it does not cause encephalitis.
 
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