Embargo broken: Bristol University Professor to discuss trial of quack cfs tx

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I was just reading the article by Esther Rantzen about her daughter who claims LP worked for her when she had ME.
But by the end of the article it turns out she had Celiacs. I see that this was discussed on PR at the time:

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/esther-rantzens-daughter-had-celiac-all-along.8655/

but I don't remember this revelation and the number of times people have said to me ...."...ah yes, Esther Rantzens daughter had ME and recovered".
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Letter to Ethics Service 14th February 2011
https://frownatsmile.wordpress.com/...l-article-by-esther-rantzen-on-12th-feb-2011/

I would like to draw your attention to an article written by the President of AYME, Esther Rantzen, that was published in the Daily Mail on-line on 12th February. She has discussed her daughter Emily’s battle with ME in the media over a number of years.

The title is, “At last I have discovered the secret of Emily’s lost 14 years”.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...t-years-Esther-Rantzen.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Esther writes, “As with many families battling an illness for which there is no known treatment, we were offered countless “miracle cures” …. since neither she nor I are attracted by unproven complementary mumbo-jumbo, we politely refused. But when a friend and fellow ME sufferer told us about the positive results of the Lightning Process (a form of cognitive behaviour therapy or neuro-linguistic programming), Emily decided to try it. It worked for her, brilliantly.”

She does not point out that the Lightning Process does not work for many others with ME and that some are harmed by it. Given that she knows very well there is a trial of LP that her charity is supporting and is involved with, this is highly irresponsible. In reality, the LP is also in the categories of “unproven complementary mumbo-jumbo” and “miracle cures”.

“It showed her a way to combat the symptoms that were overwhelming her.”
She does not point out that this way of combating symptoms is to simply ignore and deny them by using the STOP technique.

After eliminating gluten from her diet, Esther says that Emily feels, “infinitely better”, showing that in reality, she felt infinitely worse before – it is clear that the Lightning Process did not work for her as “brilliantly” as her mother claims in her promotion of the product.

1. I contend that therapeutic value from SMILE by use of The Lightning Process is promised to study recruits by virtue of the advertising for the Lightning Process on the LP websites and sales literature, and in mainstream media by the President of AYME herself. This is not a study in which participants do not know whether they are receiving the product being tested, nor is there a control group for this pilot study.

2. I also repeat that there is financial inducement to participate in SMILE as the Lightning Process is sold upwards of £600 – people have paid thousands when they have been told that they need more sessions to make it work.

In the article, Emily Rantzen herself admits,
“In the years since my recovery in 2006, I’ve been used to secretly feeling I have to drag myself through life, forcing my body to be active and using mind over matter to “fake it til I feel it”.

3. This shows that the true technique of the Lightning Process is to tell children to pretend they are no longer ill. It also shows that it doesn’t help children to achieve genuine recovery, as Emily feels that omitting gluten from her diet signals an end to what she describes as, “No more “fake it til I feel it”.

As President of AYME, it is notable that Esther Rantzen gives a fuller description of coeliac than ME, when comparing the two diseases. She omits the cardinal symptom of ME – post-exertional malaise, which is not the same as chronic fatigue. It is also incorrect to say that it “can also” cause problems with the nervous system – ME is a disease of the nervous system (WHO ICD-10 G.93.3). She mentions neurological problems and neuropathy in the description of coeliac but not in ME – again, this is an important omission as ME is a neurological disease and involves neuropathy. Immune system dysfunction is also omitted – surprising given the subject of the article – ME/CFS patients often develop auto-immune diseases such as thyroid disease and developing food and chemical sensitivities is also common in ME/CFS.

The NHS Choices website also states that neurological disorders can increase the risk of developing coeliac disease.
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Coeliac-disease/Pages/Causes.aspx

Esther Rantzen points out that NICE have recommended testing ME/CFS patients to exclude coeliac since 2007. As president of AYME, why did she not know that already? It begs the question whether AYME’s medical adviser, Esther Crawley, routinely tests for coeliac before giving her “CFS/ME” diagnosis and whether she will be including this in her tests of exclusion for the newly-diagnosed children that she is recruiting for SMILE.

Of coeliac disease, Esther Rantzen says, “But all through those years I knew almost nothing about the disease. I needed the facts.”

It seems that this could apply equally to her knowledge of ME, as it is obvious she knows far less about it than she previously thought. One would expect the President of a charity for children and young people with ME to have this basic knowledge of the disease – particularly one who reports on and discusses it regularly in mainstream media.

4. I contend that AYME is not a reliable organisation with respect to the SMILE pilot study.

Esther Rantzen also writes, “Why would anyone want that very nasty rash to return, even in the name of providing medical evidence?”

Need I say more?

Yours sincerely,

(Patient Advocate)
 

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I would love if it Crawley started talking about magic circle, STOP gestures, and controlling physiology with one's thoughts.
"controlling physiology with one's thoughts"
Be careful what you wish for ;)
That's exactly what the BPS crew aim to do.
I've seen at least one paper along these lines posted on PR (will try to find later).
 
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Looks like Phil is out of the country today:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE17...-psychology-researcher-visits-new-zealand.htm

Pioneering health psychology researcher visits New Zealand
Wednesday, 6 September 2017, 9:01 am

"...Parker will also be touring New Zealand to deliver seminars and workshops about the Lightning Process, Life Skills: Neuro-Linguistic Programming and Salutogenics*: Language as Medicine. His ten-day tour (11-21 September 2017) includes speaking engagements in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Timaru and Dunedin. For full details: http://lightningprocess.com/nz/

"...Phil Parker is currently completing his research PhD in the Psychology of Health."

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*http://www.salutegenics.com.au/
 
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http://lightningprocess.com/research/
"Free Introductory Talk
These are run regularly in London and the Bristol/Bath area.

NHS and LP

The Lightning Process has been working with the University of Bristol and the NHS on a feasibility study; full information can be found here. Two papers have been published and you can find a link to them both here:
1. The feasibility and acceptability of conducting a trial of specialist medical care and the Lightning Process in children with chronic fatigue syndrome: feasibility randomized controlled trial (SMILE study)

2. Comparing specialist medical care with specialist medical care plus the Lightning Process® for chronic fatigue syndrome or myalgic encephalomyelitis (CFS/ME): study protocol for a randomised controlled trial (SMILE Trial)


Harvard University and King’s College, London
‘Experiences of young people who have undergone the Lightning Process to treat Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/Myalgic Encephalomyelitis: A Qualitative Study’
An independent study, published in 2012, found that of the 9 participants with CFS/ME “7 were satisfied and were much improved”. Click here for more information on the study. Or to read Phil Parker’s summary of the full article and response here."

ME Association’s 2010 Survey – ‘greatly improved’
This survey compares the benefits of a number of different approaches to CFS/ME and includes statistics on the benefits of the Lightning Process.

The ME association’s survey found that the Lightning Process came top of their poll for approaches that ‘greatly improved’ the symptoms of ME/CFS.The Lightning Process received the highest percentage out of all the 25 approaches for those feeling they had ‘greatly improved’ with 25.7%. The next closest was 14.8% for modafinil/provigil (a stimulant/analeptic). Another 18.8% felt the LP had helped them improve (totalling 44.5%).

CBT, being one of the mainstays of NHS approaches to this illness is useful as a yardstick 2.8% ‘greatly improved’, 23.1% ‘improved’.

The fact that the leading ME charity is assessing how well clients did by using the Lightning Process for their ME, and found it was rated as the most helpful, supports the perspective that the Lightning Process is a suitable approach for some with ME. Read the report here.


Brighton and Sussex Medical School and the Sussex & Kent ME/CFS Society survey CFS/ME ‘LP most helpful approach’.
In this study the LP was identified as the ‘most helpful approach’. In this survey of 457 members, tracking their experiences over two years, 44% of the society’s members found the Lightning Process “very helpful” and 36% “reasonably helpful”. See the report here."


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Guiding the lifeboats to safer waters.
ME Association’s 2010 Survey – ‘greatly improved’
This survey compares the benefits of a number of different approaches to CFS/ME and includes statistics on the benefits of the Lightning Process.
It's true.
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What he neglects to mention are
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The Rowan Centre has also made use of the MEA's survey:

http://www.therowancentre.com/pdf/BodyMind ME survey results.pdf

This has already been brought to the MEA's attention, today (not by me).


The Rowan Centre used to offer LP:

https://meagenda.wordpress.com/2010...ng-process-and-smile-pilot-study-in-children/

BMJ takes two months to publish letter on Lightning Process and SMILE pilot study in children

"...Between late July and early August [2010], the Rowan Centre ceased offering the Lightning Process and all references to the Lightning Process and Lightning Process logos have been removed from their webpage. They now offer their own flavour of the “process”, known as the “BodyMind Programme”.

"See their rationale for distancing themselves from the Lightning Process here:
http://www.simpsonandfawdry.com/about-simpson-and-fawdry.htm

"Text on the Rowan Centre website was changed from:

“People using the Lightning ProcessTM have recovered from, or experienced significant improvement with the following issues and conditions…”

to:

http://www.simpsonandfawdry.com/lightning-process.html#lp1

“We have helped people with the following illnesses and conditions…”

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In September 2010, I had a BMJ Rapid Response published around The Rowan Centre which also mentioned the Pilot Study, here:

http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2...symptom-not-diagnosis-what-leads-bad-medicine

and here, on ME agenda site:

https://meagenda.wordpress.com/2010...ng-process-and-smile-pilot-study-in-children/


Note that at the time of publication, the age range for participants had been 8-18. This was subsequently raised to 12-18.
 
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For those not aware, Action for M.E.'s former CEO, Sir Peter Spencer, was a non-executive director of the Royal National Hospital for Rheumatic Diseases, NHS Foundation Trust – Dr Esther Crawley’s employer and the hospital where these studies were being undertaken.

In a position statement issued in March 2010, Action for M.E. had said it saw “no reason to oppose this pilot study”.

But in August 2010, Sir Peter Spencer, CEO of Bristol based Action for M.E., disclosed that “Action for M.E. has not seen the research protocol for this proposal and has no detailed knowledge of the way in which this trial would be conducted if approved.”
 

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Edited to correct timing:

The news briefing embargo lifts at 11.30 pm, today, Wednesday 20th:

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/working-with-us/for-journalists/roundups-for-journalists/

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/working-with-us/for-journalists/briefings-for-journalists/

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/working-with-us/for-journalists/fact-sheets-for-journalists/

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/working-with-us/for-journalists/headlines-for-journalists/

I'm going to be tied up this afternoon and won't be around to monitor, but I'd suggest that any media coverage and SMC content is posted in this thread, rather than start yet another thread on LP and the Crawley studies.
 
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The news briefing embargo lifts at 11.30 am. So there may be something up on the Science Media Centre site in the next few hours under one or more of these links:


The link on the first post shows the embargo lifting at 11.30pm? Not sure if this is a typo as it looks odd. I'm keeping my eyes peeled as we (son) have an appointment with the Bath clinic tomorrow and I would like to know the results before then. I've asked about them being published so many times and not got any answers....
 
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