EBV and Eggs

[hunter1899]

So I’ve read a few places now that say if you have EBV that you should avoid eggs? It says cold with EBV can develop allergies to eggs and ice even read that eggs can feed the virus...

Have y’all heard this or have y’all had any luck eliminating eggs from you diet? I eat 2 or 3 every day.

 

[Hip]

So I’ve read a few places now that say if you have EBV that you should avoid eggs?

Where did you read that?

 

[hunter1899]

Here’s one study. There are a few other websites that mention the allergy that EBV can cause or the fact that eggs supposedly feed viruses? Not sure if it’s BS or not so figured I’d ask you smart folks:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551721/

 

[Hip]

Had a quick glance: the study says that having EBV might play a role in triggering egg allergy. Too tired today to read in any more closely. But it says:

we hypothesized that egg food allergy was most likely to occur in EBV latent infection

Well, 90% of the adult population have a latent EBV infection.

Do you have any other references that might throw more light on the matter?

 

[hunter1899]

The study goes into more detail about the exact levels if EBV titers, etc which may help or not. I’m way too new to all of this to make heads or tails of it but maybe someone much smarter than me can.

Didn’t intend to post anything misleading but figured it might interest some folks.

Anecdotally I eat 2 or 3 eggs every morning and start feeling tired a couple hours later. Probably coincidence.

 

[Hip]

Anecdotally I eat 2 or 3 eggs every morning and start feeling tired a couple hours later. Probably coincidence.

Not necessarily a coincidence. ME/CFS patients tend to have more allergies and food intolerances, and if you can identify any food intolerances you suffer from (this is usually done with an exclusion diet for food intolerance), then you may gain some energy by avoiding that food.

 

[hunter1899]

Not necessarily a coincidence. ME/CFS patients tend to have more allergies and food intolerances, and if you can identify any food intolerances you suffer from (this is usually done with an exclusion diet for food intolerance), then you may gain some energy by avoiding that food.

cutting out eggs will be tough. I’m already on a mold free diet so breakfast options are limited. Still not sure if gluten free is considered ok for mold free??

regardless, I’d eat pure grade A dog shit for breakfast if it meant feeling better.

 

[Shen]

I also feel tired after eggs. And much more tired if I eat them regularly. Probably a hidden intolerance building histamine in the background until sympthoms show up when too much is accumulated

 

[EddieB]

cutting out eggs will be tough.

I did some research on this awhile back, found that supposedly eggs have arginine. Arginine supposedly feeds EBV, HSV, etc.

L-lysine supposedly blocks arginine. Eggs also contain some L-lysine. Seems conflicting, who knows...

Some people are allergic to eggs, and giving them up can have a profound effect. I gave them up for a couple months and felt same/worse, so I went back to eating them, 2 a day. You’ll have to figure out if they’re causing you trouble.

 

[Wishful]

regardless, I’d eat pure grade A dog shit for breakfast if it meant feeling better.

I lived on cornstarch pancakes and water for a year or two, hoping that I'd deplete my tryptophan reserves and avoid unknown triggers and maybe reset my body. Very (very, very, very) boring diet, and it did avoid worsening symptoms, but didn't help otherwise. Adding other foods afterwards made it easier to notice which ones made me feel worse.

I chose cornstarch pancakes because cornstarch, baking powder, and canola oil are pretty much devoid of proteins and other things that could trigger sensitivities, and is more satisfying than pure sugar. If, for some reason, you decide to try them, try mixing the batter with boiling water instead of cold; I preferred that texture and taste.

Drinking hot water instead of coffee or tea avoids triggers, but is very, very, very boring too.

 

[Husband of]

To those saying they get tired from eating eggs, I do too, and I don't have mecfs.

 

[Judee]

I tried to research this recently too because eggs are one of the foods that crash me the worst and gives me my "heart tiredness" feeling for days afterward.

The only thing that I could find that doesn't really explain this was the following recent discovery in research.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/fo...ody-response-against-an-egg-associated-glycan

Maybe one day it will show something of a connection to some sort of autoimmune reaction happening in people who have received vaccinations that were grown on eggs. ??

IDK.

 

[Rufous McKinney]

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it feeds the virus.

I read that viruses can't be grown on agar plates or in peach tree dishes, like bacteria can. Because viruses are not "alive" (that was a Google statement...)

They have to be grown in live cells. So they grow them using eggs.

I don't see a connection between eating an egg and it feeding viruses. The viruses want protein and I'd better make sure I am eating enough protein or bad things happen.....

 

[Rufous McKinney]

Maybe one day it will show something of a connection to some sort of autoimmune reaction happening in people who have received vaccinations that were grown on eggs. ??

I have no idea what I would eat if eggs are banned.

 

[Tammy]

They have to be grown in live cells. So they grow them using eggs.

Yes, they are grown in eggs and then can be transferred to other cell cultures. I think I used the word medium wrong.

 

[Judee]

I have no idea what I would eat if eggs are banned.

If they don't seem to crash you and/or you don't see any pattern of symptoms worsening after you eat them then I wouldn't worry about it for now.

 

[linusbert]

did you guys who dont tolerate eggs try just the raw egg YOLK without the white?

i've read somewhere that boiled hard eggwhite takes like 8h in stomach to digest. where as raw egg just takes like 30 minutes. (can't find source anymore sadly)

but i can confirm that i have more heartburn from whole eggs cooked.
but from just the raw egg yellow or even cooked so that the yolk is still fluid doesnt make me any problems for stomach.

also lot allergens are in the white but not the yolk.


what i seam to get from eggs(yolks) after eating like 1-2 a day after 1-2 weaks my diabetes worsens. i also seam to gain weight even when cutting out equal amount of calories from other foods. so i dont add more calories by eggs. still gaining weight.
maybe its a cholesterol thing.
i thought about carnitine might helping it, but i cannot tolerate any carnitine because of diarrhea