I'd just like to say, one more time, that Dr. Marshall has never tried to pass himself off as an MD, and it would be nice if folks would stop repeating that misinformation, whatever else you may not like about his personality or his protocol.
I guess I missed that, but with all due respect, where in this thread has anyone claimed that Dr. Marshall has 'tried to pass himself off as an MD'? They may have said 'he's not an MD', but I doubt they said he was trying to pass himself off as one.
Does it bother you that DR John Coffin is not an MD? Does it bother you that DR Judy Mikovits is not an MD?
Nope. Personally I prefer ND's, and other forms of alternative medicine/healing, but also appreciate MD's for their contributions.
Dr. Marshall's protocol is a research effort, using real human volunteers, instead of the usual bio-engineered MICE. As I am a human being, not a mouse, I appreciate this fact. His theories about L-form bacteria are built upon similar work by others. His ideas did not come out of thin air. By the way, there are MDs and RNs on the protocol. Dr Greg Blaney of Canada is one name I remember. Many of the moderators are RNs. Cultists and idiots? I don't think so.
I don't think so either. It should be noted however, that many of the
past moderators were also RN's and others in the health field...
And if you think excessive consumption of vitamin D is without risk, you should do your own homework.
Again,
where has anyone here said that 'excessive consumption of vitamin D is without risk'? Please copy and paste their post.
And if you think you're not getting vitamin D in your food, I challenge you to examine the foods in your cupboard and refrigerator and write down the % of daily recommended IUs that is added to so much food. Milk, cereals, bread and almost all processed foods have added vitamin D. So even if you are not getting the 10 minutes a day of sunshine on your skin that it takes to manufacture your own vitamin D, you are still getting it in your diet.
I can only speak for myself, but even when I drank two glasses of milk a day, that provided only 200IU's of D, half the RDA. I don't eat processed frankenfoods, but would guess the other
chemicals, artificial colors, flavors, that make up the dozens of ingredients may be more harmful than the miniscule amount of vitamin d, that is even if they added D3, instead of synthetic D2. I respectfully challenge
you to post a study to back up your claims that our diets are providing "excessive" amounts of vitamin D. Seriously...if it's out there, we should see it.
And of course everyone should always talk to their doctor and run tests before supplementing with vitamin d.
Much of the "natural" vitamin D being sold is fish oil, or derived from fish oil, which, you should know by now, is loaded with mercury and other heavy metals. And I saw one D supplement advertised for $100 for a bottle of 60, so, for those who think more expensive = better, it isn't cheap either.
Yes, some fish oils may certainly be contaminated with mercury, but to make a blanket statement suggesting (all) fish oil is "loaded" with mercury, is factually untrue, unless you can provide a link that suggests otherwise.
A link to that
$100 bottle(???) of 60 capsules of vitamin D would be nice too. Most pharmaceutical-grade vitamin D3 (5,000iu's) sells for around $15.00, hardly a money-maker, especially compared to pharmaceuticals. 1,000iu's, 60 caps, sells for anywhere from $5-7.
Because vitamin D is a seco-steroid, a hormone, it can make you feel better in the short run, like taking any other steroid, but harm your immune system in the long run. Like salt, we all need a little, and like salt, too much of anything can harm you; like salt, way too much could contribute to your death.
Naturally taking too much of anything is dangerous. Who on this thread is saying we should literally take "way too much"? I'm baffled by your statements.
As for the current ad campaign the supplement industry is engaged in reporting "research" that proves vitamin D is the new miracle supplement, I suggest anyone who is interested in the truth of such "research" do their own homework. I haven't the time, energy or inclination to educate you on this. This bogus "research" is bought and paid for by the supplement manufacturers and deciminated in a very systematic and calculated way. It is then repeated by copy-cat "journalists".
Oerganix...you have the time to write two very long threads to "educate (us) on this", but cannot provide a study that supports the basic science that normal levels of vitamin D is beneficial to a host of diseases -- one that can show it was 'bought and paid for by the supplement manufacturers'?
I guess I've missed that "current ad campaign". If anything, your statement certainly applies to the pharmaceutical industry that advertises 24/7, especially during the news. I must be watching the wrong channel as I have yet to see a SINGLE commercial promoting vitamin D on television, let alone a 'campaign'.
In researching what work I might be able to do online, I also came across companies that pay bloggers to tout products online on public forums. They pay by the number of "insertions" you are able to put out there, and additionally by the number of responses you get to your posts. Some companies have participants who are organized by "teams", who sometimes respond to each other's posts, to up the number of responses on these forums. This is way too unethical for me, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who will do what they feel they have to, to earn money.
I've seen those sites too. They pay literally pennies, and that's only if the responses one gets results in a sale. Hardly an incentive to promote anything, let alone vitamin D. That's why drug companies hire
highly paid lobbyists and ad agencies to promote their products, and sponsor studies to back up their claims.