Dr Jack Kruse's explanation of what CFS is

Wonko

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????? Please explain.
Really? You need me to explain that???

okay.

When I was much, much, much, younger I used to climb trees. Given it would probably have been summer there is a high probability I may have been wearing both sandals and sunglasses. I was not always successful at maintaining altitude, largely down to gravity but also down to a major design flaw in trees re branch strength of the top ones.

Thus I did come down from the tree wearing both sandals and sunglasses, this happened on several occasions so I did, in fact, come down from the trees wearing both sandals and sunglasses, although the sunglasses may have detached upon impact.

I did have questions about why it was necessary to explain this, it was obvious from the context, but your next post explained everything.
 

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Well I suppose you could say that biology is produced by physics. Bit hard to work it all out though and apply it to illness. Interesting to note that applying electric currents to the sick was very popular in the distant past.
 

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They used to cure TB with sunshine/grounding.
I'm sorry? They didn't "cure" TB with sunshine, they wheeled people outside on on the theory it might cut the mortality rate. Nobody was cured by sunshine, it's just less died due to not being cooped up in a highly infectious environment for as long.

Can't wrap my mind around this resistance. It costs no money.nada! There are no side effects.
Apart from all the pesky little effects caused by not getting medical treatment for serious medical conditions of course. You can't put a price on that.

I also have aspergers, and I and my posts, can get a little weird at times, my sense of humor at such times seems to be inaccessible to most people. I really hope that your posts today have been an attempt at humor that I simply have't got and do not reflect reality as you see it.

Wishing you well :)
 

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I have every crappy metylation snp possible. If born today I'd be in special education for sure. Huge ADHD or autism spectum. My genetic genie report looks like I am a Florida Seminole or Arizona State sun devil or usc Trojan alumnus.All red and yellow.!!
Most of those SNPs do nothing. And the ones which do have an impact, are very common and rarely have any effect upon health (primarily the MTHFR mutations in the case of fetuses of a mother with the mutations). They're easily compensated for with a reasonable diet or basic multivitamin.
 

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This is what I do, I sit out in my garden all day barefoot.
7 years later, do you still do this and notice benefit? do you think it's important to be in a low EMF environment?

i've sat outside barefoot most days for years / decades, but recently realized the radio frequency is high where I sit outside from neighbors' wifi. (I have ethernet and can't control their wifi)
 

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7 years later, do you still do this and notice benefit? do you think it's important to be in a low EMF environment?

i've sat outside barefoot most days for years / decades, but recently realized the radio frequency is high where I sit outside from neighbors' wifi. (I have ethernet and can't control their wifi)
No, I did this for a couple of years. I do think being in the sun, in nature, and grounded is beneficial however the heat is brutal with my POTS. I still go out now and then but I used to spend almost all day outside, now I only go outside if Im walking around a park or public trail.

Spending all day out side didn't have much effect on my main symptoms unfortunately.
 

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No, I did this for a couple of years. I do think being in the sun, in nature, and grounded is beneficial however the heat is brutal with my POTS. I still go out now and then but I used to spend almost all day outside, now I only go outside if Im walking around a park or public trail.

Spending all day out side didn't have much effect on my main symptoms unfortunately.
That is so disappointing. Here I was hoping this would be just the ticket for me. I still want to try moving my sleep schedule to wake up and see the sunrise every day, and maybe that might help. But I already get plenty of sun (thanks Ray Peat) and have always grounded and walked barefoot since I was a kid.
 

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That is so disappointing. Here I was hoping this would be just the ticket for me. I still want to try moving my sleep schedule to wake up and see the sunrise every day, and maybe that might help. But I already get plenty of sun (thanks Ray Peat) and have always grounded and walked barefoot since I was a kid.
Yeah I'd say getting morning sunlight and aligning your sleep to circadian rhythm is still worth it and good for you just manage your expectations regarding how much it helps this chronic illness.
 

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Jack Kruse is probably one of the least intelligent people I’ve ever read about, let alone the fact that he is a very bad person. "And people like Ray Peat, who is now dead, thank God" – Jack Kruse on the day Ray Peat died.

His advice is damaging for his followers. Two of his primary focuses are quantum biology (which by now is all quackery, full of chatter trying to sound as elevated as possible so that fewer people can understand it. I’m an aerospace engineer, and I cringe every time someone on the internet employs this sort of strategy), and light:

1. In respect of quantum biology: he recommends low-carb diets because of the deuterium content in some high-carb foods. As always with these quantum biology types, they completely ignore the big picture, focusing on the micro while losing all rational insight. This is the case here. Basic physiology 101: low-carb diets increase adrenaline and cortisol, inhibit the conversion of T4 to T3, and cause the release of free fatty acids, which are cytotoxic. If the fatty acids are unsaturated (like DHA), their breakdown products are the most significant markers of oxidative stress. Additionally, free fatty acids/ketones are worse fuels than glucose, which burns faster and produces more ATP per second. T3, on the other hand, stimulates mitochondrial biogenesis and supports every single complex in the electron transport chain and the Krebs cycle.

Following Kruse's advice will lead to: low T3, high cortisol, high adrenaline, free fatty acids in the blood (a semi-diabetic state), less T3 stimulation of ATP synthesis, more oxidative stress, and lower levels of progesterone, testosterone, and dopamine. All of this is exchanged for “deuterium depletion,” which, at best, is far less critical for mitochondrial function than proper thyroid function.

2. He doesn’t even understand his own thing. He claims to be the biggest expert on light, or at least he believes so, but he has recommended EMR-TEK panels (red light therapy devices) which are a waste of money and hazardous for those who buy them. These panels are far too powerful and can cause a biphasic dose response in the blink of an eye. Furthermore, their power diminishes very quickly with distance, with a steep gradient. For example, if you are very close – say, an inch away from the device – the power is very high and dangerous. But if you expose yourself at a distance of 2 inches, the power is extremely low and the treatment becomes ineffective. This means the panel is virtually impossible to use properly. He recommended these panels for years before even mentioning the biphasic dose response... quite astounding for the “biggest” light expert, putting at risk the lives of his followers.
Moreover, he has claimed that blue light diminishes ATP levels and causes neurodegenerative diseases. This is impossible, as blue light does not penetrate through to the brain. When discussing other consequences like disrupted sleep patterns, he is probably correct.

He is not only a very bad person but also possesses an undeservedly high ego and can’t stop making embarrassing moves. He simply takes advantage of people who want to improve their health or, even worse, those with unresolved health problems that conventional medicine has failed to address. He is the definition of a quack and snake oil salesman.
 

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Additionally, his explanation of fibromyalgia made me laugh – and, as you can tell from the bitterness I normally write with, that is not something easily accomplished. Kudos to him I guess.
 
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and I cringe every time someone on the internet employs this sort of strategy
Sadly, it's an effective strategy for convincing a large portion of the population. Use some scientific-sounding babble, and if it's by "MD" or "PhD", it will be accepted by x% of people. If it's published in <professional-sounding but actually garbage> journal, the number grows by y%. Get some articles in several health magazines gushing about its brilliance, and another z% accepts it. The important thing is that it offers some easy solution to a problem (cures whatever disease). Publish a study that explains a disease but says that there's no easy treatment, and it won't get attention. Publish garbage that claims an easy treatment (take one of my magic pills each day), and you'll get plenty of attention. Humans are gullible. So sad.
 
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