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Dr David Tuller: The British Association for CFS/ME Switches Gears 27 OCTOBER 2020

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Trial By Error: The British Association for CFS/ME Switches Gears
27 OCTOBER 2020
By David Tuller, DrPH

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On October 20th, the British Association for CFS/ME issued a document titled “Position Paper on the management of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.” The timing of this document, in which the organization appears to contradict its previous stance on graded exercise therapy and cognitive behavior therapy, is worth noting. Two weeks from now, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence will release the draft of its revised clinical guidelines for ME/CFS.

Why has BACME decided, just before release of the NICE draft, to make this announcement, with zero explanation for the change? It seems likely or at least possible that members of the organization anticipate significant revisions from NICE and want to position themselves for a new environment. If they believed the new guidance would merely replicate the 2007 version and its recommendations for GET and CBT, they would presumably be less eager to repudiate interventions they once endorsed.

(The ME Association, Action For ME, and Physios For ME have all issued statements about this position paper.)

Members of the GET/CBT ideological brigades, including the professionals involved with BACME, seem unsure of their footing as their treatment paradigm faces unprecedented challenges. Under the circumstances, this BACME “position paper” might more aptly be called a “reposition paper.”

Founded in 2009, BACME describes itself as “a multidisciplinary organisation for UK professionals who are involved in the delivery of clinically effective services for patients with CFS/ME.” After its formation, Esther Crawley, the University of Bristol’s methodologically and ethically challenged pediatrician and investigator, served as chair. (She was not yet a professor.) At a BACME conference two years ago, a key speaker was Professor Per Fink, the Danish psychiatrist who has argued that all unexplained physical symptoms are essentially manifestations of an overarching psychiatric disorder called “bodily distress syndrome.”
In a clinical guide for professionals working with CFS/ME patients that was still available as of last year, BACME made clear that its perspective adhered to the then-accepted approach associated with PACE:

It [the guide] does not replace specialist CBT and GET training (recommended by NICE and available at www.PACEtrial.org). It represents pragmatic recommendations from experienced clinicians to guide practice when seeing adults with CFS/ME, where specialist CFS/ME CBT and GET therapists are not available/appropriate. It is informed by these approaches.
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Why is BACME still called BACME?
While the association’s name refers to CFS/ME, the association’s position paper discusses an entity now being called ME/CFS. The discordance between the association’s name and the revised moniker for the disease in which it claims expertise is noteworthy—it suggests that BACME is playing catch-up. It leaves the impression that BACME is, well, confused about what to do—perhaps even struggling with some existential angst.
 

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"... rehabilitative and therapeutic processes ... "

"BACME supports grading activity strategies when delivered by an ME/CFS specialist clinician to make increases and improvements in physical, cognitive and emotional function from an identified stable baseline. "

But then says they don't support the inflexible GET based on deconditioning. Seems they are still recommending exercise but not if the patient isn't feeling like it. That is still dangerous though, that can and will cause crashes because many patients can not know what will cause a crash and more importantly is it really exercise if you can't enter the aerobic heart rate zone? Seems like a weird distinction to make, something has changed but also nothing has.

"BACME supports the use of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) strategies and other psychological interventions with the aim of developing management strategies "

At least they aren't saying CBT treats the patient, now its for coping.

"...who has a good understanding of ME/CFS."

Except there are literally zero of those in CFS clinics in the UK so this stipulation means they are all out of a job?!

What I am seeing is a rename of GET to something else combined with CBT still being used. All hopes UK patients had that this would change the treatments or start to recommend medical investigations have been dashed. The only thing that changed is the reason for the treatments are no longer based on the mentally ill and deconditioned theory, they just rebased them to "many dysfunctions". There are things they could do to reduce symptoms and improve function and none of its even addressed.

The NHS is beyond help. Take it out back and shoot it already, it's torturing its patients with its incompetence.
 

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If I am an introspective Physical Therapist (which I am) reading the position paper, I would be far more cautious about how I approach patients with this diagnosis. But I would have been much more cautious before based on the patient's responses. In all of my years I have never seen forcing something be successful in therapy. Work harder sometimes. Work smarter. Definitely. Identify the root problem and address that. Frequently. But rarely if ever does the same approach work for every patient who has a certain diagnosis.

So maybe the "scientists" have not changed their approach, but maybe the wording will assist the clinicians actually working with these people to be a bit more respectful of the disease. We can only hope :)
 
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I've been looking more into GET myself lately, and although my initial bout with it did no good, I also have noticed that the longer I lie still after a crash, the worse I get. I think there is simply a really fine line between movement that helps and movement that impairs things worse. Maybe finding the line is so nuanced that it is difficult. But I know someone who went from bed-ridden to functioning with GET, which made me want to give it a second look.

I think my initial problems with GET was doing too much when I felt better, and not being able to really figure out my baseline from which to work. I think my baseline of ability is/was lower than I thought or expected, and I needed to be more careful and respectful of my body's limits.

I also notice that if I can keep myself more positive I actually feel better. I figured this has something to do with the fact that the autonomic nervous system has something to do with it... so remaining positive, or believing that I can get better, calms the system down or something.
 

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I think there is simply a really fine line between movement that helps and movement that impairs things worse.
From a functional and physiological standpoint what you are saying seems right on. I prefer to use the term Graded Activity or Graded Exposure. Exercise would be a form of activity or of an exposure, but with ME/CFS you are dealing with a limited amount of energy and a lag time to recover any energy reserves.
I think my baseline of ability is/was lower than I thought or expected, and I needed to be more careful and respectful of my body's limits.
Our experience with our son was that he would feel better and push it, then pay for it for days. Interestingly in the clinic with Chronic Pain I see the exact same pattern as a Physical Therapist. Some of my patients in the past found journaling their activity (simple and not too detailed) seemed to help. Like just minutes of activity and whether it was walking, arm work, household chores. Then trying to slowly increase like keeping it the same for 1-2 weeks before increasing it 5%. May even be helpful to have one day be a bit longer and the next day to be a bit shorter. The last two principles are from the world of endurance training. (periodization)
I also notice that if I can keep myself more positive I actually feel better. I figured this has something to do with the fact that the autonomic nervous system has something to do with it... so remaining positive, or believing that I can get better, calms the system down or something.
So we did find this to be helpful, but not a cure. I also think it is best to have "right" thinking which in my opinion is positive, but not unrealistic. Fact is if you have ME/CFS you have a devastating disease. However, there are things one can do and it does help to have some hope that things can improve. I would also include meditation and even visualization (such as actually seeing in your mind going for a longer walk in a place you really love). The two big issues I have/had with the UK approach were that it was very dogmatic and promoted a lack of respect for the disease and the person AND it was based on a premise that if you change your thoughts you could cure the disease. I am confident thinking different can help, but you have to acknowledge that this is an extremely difficult disease to live with. You can be both truly a victim of something beyond your control and at the same time determine you are going to do what you can to improve. You have to acknowledge both. At least that is what we found.

I will repeat myself again and again on this forum that I have great respect for you and those who live with this disease and yet do the best they can each day. Much more respect than I have for most if not all the professional athletes and Olympians in the world who have never faced such a challenge!