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Alvin2

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The doctors that I trust suggest a lot of vitamin D and a very lot of Vitamin C.
Plus rest, stay warm and drink lots of water.
Don't take a lot of Vitamin D, which can be toxic when overdosed.
1000IU is considered safe, 2000IU is probably the max people should take without testing.
For those that don't absorb it and testing proves it more can be taken, but followup testing should be done to ensure they are not overdosing.
 
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Don't take a lot of Vitamin D, which can be toxic when overdosed.
1000IU is considered safe, 2000IU is probably the max people should take without testing.
For those that don't absorb it and testing proves it more can be taken, but followup testing should be done to ensure they are not overdosing.

Thanks. I only take 1000IU but my doctor/researcher friend takes 3000 - 4000IU which sounds really high to me.

Any advice for adding Nicotinic Acid (Niacin) safely? I get paranoid about ingesting anything.
 

Alvin2

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Thanks. I only take 1000IU but my doctor/researcher friend takes 3000 - 4000IU which sounds really high to me.
In my case it seems my body cannot create it or easily absorb it so i am on a high dose but i am tested every 6 months and had to reduce it.

Any advice for adding Nicotinic Acid (Niacin) safely? I get paranoid about ingesting anything.
Wikipedia explains it well.
Though if i remember correctly its water soluble so harder to overdose on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin#Dietary_recommendations
 

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my doctor/researcher friend takes 3000 - 4000IU which sounds really high to me.

It've taken 7.700 IU daily to get an average 70 ng/ml 25(OH)D3 serum level during the last 12 years. Just read from Mercola that he didn't need any supplemental vitamin D to keep his serum level above 60 the last 10 years. That is exceptional, even him living in Florida. Also in my case I maxed whole-body sunshine exposure to about 340 hrs a year, and still need to supplement. Only a little less recent years.

According to the testing by https://www.grassrootshealth.net/ most need about 5.000 IU to get to such optmal serum levels. The only important with such doses is to get your serum 25(OH)D checked after 2-3 months (wich it usually takes to get serum levels up), and then adjust dose accordingly.
 

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Any advice for adding Nicotinic Acid (Niacin) safely? I get paranoid about ingesting anything.

The flush, though itself harmless, can be incredible strong. Even at low doses as 100 mg. Therefore start very low and incease every few days by 25-50 mgs to slowly get accostomed to. Also recheck liver enzyms.
 

Alvin2

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It've taken 7.700 IU daily to get an average 70 ng/ml 25(OH)D3 serum level during the last 12 years. Just read from Mercola that he didn't need any supplemental vitamin D to keep his serum level above 60 the last 10 years. That is exceptional, even him living in Florida. Also in my case I maxed whole-body sunshine exposure to about 340 hrs a year, and still need to supplement. Only a little less recent years.

According to the testing by https://www.grassrootshealth.net/ most need about 5.000 IU to get to such optmal serum levels. The only important with such doses is to get your serum 25(OH)D checked after 2-3 months (wich it usually takes to get serum levels up), and then adjust dose accordingly.
At 8000IU i was at toxic level (by 3 points) so i pulled it back to 6000IU. Followup test next week.
Those who are able to absorb it can reach toxic levels at 4000IU so thats why testing is needed if supplementing.
 

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The flush, though itself harmless, can be incredible strong. Even at low doses as 100 mg. Therefore start very low and incease every few days by 25-50 mgs to slowly get accostomed to. Also recheck liver enzyms.

I really don't want to go to a medical office so do you think if I keep the dose very small I should be OK without the liver enzyme check? I don't want to go full throttle but just get a little bit extra.
 

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do you think if I keep the dose very small I should be OK without the liver enzyme check?

I thought more about pharmacological high doses, like the 3 g/d I take. Don't think niacin doses below 1 g/d can cause any problems. Also extented release niacin, like prescribtion niaspan, puts more continous stress on the liver, than simple immatiate release niacin. Which very rarely causes any liver problems. However, if there are any problems with the liver I would try to monitor liver enzyms anyway, as was in my case.
 
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Well- I am about 3 weeks post first symptoms, I have been mostly bed-bound, trying to take it easy.

I have mild tachycardia it seems, I went for a walk up my road, incline, about 10 minutes or so, got chest pain, and now it feels like my legs are made of cement.

I am wondering, could I still be recovering, could 3 weeks of bed rest really make me this fatigued upon exertion?

Hopefully it will improve, I suppose i should see a cardiologist as Covid can cause myocarditis
 

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Well- I am about 3 weeks post first symptoms, I have been mostly bed-bound, trying to take it easy.

I have mild tachycardia it seems, I went for a walk up my road, incline, about 10 minutes or so, got chest pain, and now it feels like my legs are made of cement.

I am wondering, could I still be recovering, could 3 weeks of bed rest really make me this fatigued upon exertion?

Hopefully it will improve, I suppose i should see a cardiologist as Covid can cause myocarditis

Yes, 3 weeks of bed rest AND 3 weeks of your body fighting off virus. When I was sick last December (exactly one year from today!) the weeks AFTER the virus were the worst. Month 2 was the worst. Then in month 3 and 4 I felt better but was still about 85% of my normal crappy.
 
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Just to add an optimistic note: I've heard one story of ME/CFS patients going into remission after coronavirus infection. It seems that in the fight to clear coronavirus, the immune system may also clear the viruses causing ME/CFS.

This remission has also been observed with ME/CFS patients who get influenzavirus and RSV — see this post.

This is the wildest thing I've ever read!
 

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I have retained taste/smell, no fever. SEVERE body aches, and when I feel I’m getting better the next day I am wrecked. I don’t know what day I’m on maybe 7 maybe 12. I started ignoring those feelings as i thought PEM

currently taking:
Vitamin D 5k/day
NAC 600mg/day going to try 1200 today
Vit C 1500-2000mg/day
Quercetin 800mg/day
Aspirin 81mg/day
Lactoferrin 250mg/day

Welcome to the pandemic.

I had a mild-moderate case of covid. I followed a low inflammation diet (no red meat, minimal glyfosate/roundup pesticide foods (no commercial meat and nonorganic grains), quadrupled vit D3 intake to 2x/week 8000iu total per week and ate mostly vegetarian when it was at its worst. Smell/taste returned after five weeks. Didn't need oxygen but had to rest a lot and had low exercise tolerance.

Recommend stopping the NAC and quercitin as they will inhibit immune response further to kill the virus (anti-oxidants). Real black licorice inhibits viral replication and may work on covid-19 but don't overdo it (6 pieces per day max as it interferes with potassium). If it gets bad (blue lips, low oxygen saturation) see a doctor.
 
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