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I've read it's the other way around; that copper supports estrogen production.
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(I should note that the person did say they get a lot of copper from their diet, but they have also said they get a lot of manganese from their diet which is supposed to be a copper antagonist)
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Many things are copper antagonists (zinc, molybdenum, manganese, etc.).Personally my serum Cu levels had been very low for a long time as well as ceruloplasminin. In the past taking Zn used to make me really tired. On the other hand if I took Cu I felt like *bleep*.A couple months ago my doctor suggested Mo for sulfite processing and more zinc. I was like huh won't that kill copper, he said lets do it for a couple months and re-measure and also do a hair analysis. Note this was the first time I took Zn and Mo together. Guess what ... my copper went up in the serum (20 points) and the ceruloplasminin went from like 2.5% percentile to like 25% percentile Then hair analysis showed low Cu in the interstitial space though the Zn / Cu ratio was ok. My serum zinc was ok but my hair molybdenum was still really low and the hair zinc also low.Personally I don't know where it is all headed but the 30 mg of zinc and 450 mg of Mo was a good move. Maybe I get plenty of copper in my diet. Dunno. I don't supplement with copper at this point. Copper scares the *bleep* out of me for multiple reasons.So I don't think the kinetics is as simple as antagonist and agonist. There are multiple variables methinks.