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http://cfsuntied.com/blog2/2010/12/18/vulgar-display-of-power/
"In a VDOP (Vulgar Display Of Power), the CDC announced today (Saturday, about a week before Christmas) that they have selected Dr. Elizabeth Unger as the new Chronic Viral Diseases Branch Chief. While this comes as no surprise to many of us who have been riding this crazy train for a few stops, it is a blatant assertion that the CDC collective-think seems to be that they can continue to call the terms.
Do not for a minute suppose that they are unaware of how unhappy this makes us. Do not believe for a microsecond that they haven’t heard our pleas. They know. They have no intention of capitulation. This has been one of the slickest, high-level, on-going cons in the history of our country. The way the CDC has handled this illness from the moment they appeared in Incline Village has been a masterpiece of manipulation, so well orchestrated and so highly choreographed that it takes my breath away. One almost has to admire the genius, if it weren’t for the genocide.
I’ve been monitoring the reaction to this news across the community. Some of the commentary breaks my heart. The eternal optimism that such a sick community displays is evidence of the human spirit at it’s best. But listen…
Some of us seem to be under the impression that we got Reeves fired, and that we can do it again with Unger if we need to.
Reeves didn’t get fired. Reeves metastasized. His new title is “Senior Advisor for Mental Health Surveillance in the Public Health Surveillance Program Office within the CDC’s Office of Surveillance, Epidemiology, and Laboratory Services.” The “Reeves Empirical” still stands. We are still being slaughtered with Reevesian studies, such as:
April 21, 2010 – U.S. Healthcare providers’ knowledge, attitudes, beliefs and perceptions concerning Chronic Fatigue Syndrome – Brimmer DJ, Fridinger F, Lin JM, Reeves WC
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20406491
July 1, 2010 – Absence of evidence of Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Virus-related virus infection in persons with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and healthy controls in the United States – William M Switzer, Hongwei Jia, Oliver Hohn, HaoQiang Zheng, Shaohua Tang, Anupama Shankar, Norbert Bannert, Graham Simmons, R Michael Hendry, Virginia R Falkenberg, William C Reeves, Walid Heneine
http://www.retrovirology.com/content/7/1/57
July 14, 2010 – Association of childhood trauma with cognitive function in healthy adults: a pilot study – Majer M, Nater UM, Lin JM, Capuron L, Reeves WC
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20630071
July 28, 2010 – Personality features and disorders in chronic fatigue syndrome: a population-based study – Nater UM, Jones JF, Maloney E, Reeves WC, Heim C.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20664306
I think we could safely consider Dr. Unger to be “Reeves Part Deux”. Beth has explained to us patiently that the Reeves criteria is perfectly fine, we are just not capable of understanding how it’s being used. She is also speaking of the Georgia cohort as if it were relevant, and seeks to even FURTHER broaden the definition by claiming that “it doesn’t pay to be a slave to any one definition”, a stance which enables allowance or refusal of anyone into any cohort on any given day, depending on the desired outcome.
She has noted that she feels “the day of a simple CFS patient versus control situation is probably over and we need to have CFS with a dimensionality…..”
In one exchange at the last CFSAC meeting, Dr. Jason questioned Dr. Unger about her reasoning for not acknowledging biomarkers on the website. When Dr. Unger answered that they don’t publish everything on the website, because they don’t know what the biomarkers mean, Dr. Jason pursued with:
Dr. Jason: “You feel that most people with this illness have some type of personality disorder? This might be suggested by some people looking at some of the CDC publications , and then the issue of dialogue and communications with research and patient communities with yourself…”(she hadn’t been returning phone calls, apparently).
Dr. Unger: “Again, personality is not my area of expertise so ..I will stand by the papers that the CDC has published because we are very careful with what we do. I will say that I have been “acting” therefore it’s different for me to make long range plans or decisions. So if I have been incommunicative its because I have been trying to move the program forward and feel its not necessarily the time for me to be reaching out yet. But its isn’t that I want to avoid people.”
We’ll see what she says now that she’s no longer “acting”. Pun intended.
This is not a matter of someone at the CDC being underqualified to appoint a branch chief. It’s not a matter of the CDC being out of touch with what the community wants. This is a scene from one of the final acts of a very long-running play, a lead-in to the culmination of the cliffhanger. And here’s the spoiler alert: I’d be willing to bet that by this time next year, according to the CDC….
If you have XMRV-related illness, you DON’T have CFS!
(Is anybody running book on this? I’ll give 10-1 odds. Guaron-TEED!)"
http://cfsuntied.com/blog2/2010/12/18/vulgar-display-of-power/
"In a VDOP (Vulgar Display Of Power), the CDC announced today (Saturday, about a week before Christmas) that they have selected Dr. Elizabeth Unger as the new Chronic Viral Diseases Branch Chief. While this comes as no surprise to many of us who have been riding this crazy train for a few stops, it is a blatant assertion that the CDC collective-think seems to be that they can continue to call the terms.
Do not for a minute suppose that they are unaware of how unhappy this makes us. Do not believe for a microsecond that they haven’t heard our pleas. They know. They have no intention of capitulation. This has been one of the slickest, high-level, on-going cons in the history of our country. The way the CDC has handled this illness from the moment they appeared in Incline Village has been a masterpiece of manipulation, so well orchestrated and so highly choreographed that it takes my breath away. One almost has to admire the genius, if it weren’t for the genocide.
I’ve been monitoring the reaction to this news across the community. Some of the commentary breaks my heart. The eternal optimism that such a sick community displays is evidence of the human spirit at it’s best. But listen…
Some of us seem to be under the impression that we got Reeves fired, and that we can do it again with Unger if we need to.
Reeves didn’t get fired. Reeves metastasized. His new title is “Senior Advisor for Mental Health Surveillance in the Public Health Surveillance Program Office within the CDC’s Office of Surveillance, Epidemiology, and Laboratory Services.” The “Reeves Empirical” still stands. We are still being slaughtered with Reevesian studies, such as:
April 21, 2010 – U.S. Healthcare providers’ knowledge, attitudes, beliefs and perceptions concerning Chronic Fatigue Syndrome – Brimmer DJ, Fridinger F, Lin JM, Reeves WC
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20406491
July 1, 2010 – Absence of evidence of Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Virus-related virus infection in persons with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and healthy controls in the United States – William M Switzer, Hongwei Jia, Oliver Hohn, HaoQiang Zheng, Shaohua Tang, Anupama Shankar, Norbert Bannert, Graham Simmons, R Michael Hendry, Virginia R Falkenberg, William C Reeves, Walid Heneine
http://www.retrovirology.com/content/7/1/57
July 14, 2010 – Association of childhood trauma with cognitive function in healthy adults: a pilot study – Majer M, Nater UM, Lin JM, Capuron L, Reeves WC
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20630071
July 28, 2010 – Personality features and disorders in chronic fatigue syndrome: a population-based study – Nater UM, Jones JF, Maloney E, Reeves WC, Heim C.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20664306
I think we could safely consider Dr. Unger to be “Reeves Part Deux”. Beth has explained to us patiently that the Reeves criteria is perfectly fine, we are just not capable of understanding how it’s being used. She is also speaking of the Georgia cohort as if it were relevant, and seeks to even FURTHER broaden the definition by claiming that “it doesn’t pay to be a slave to any one definition”, a stance which enables allowance or refusal of anyone into any cohort on any given day, depending on the desired outcome.
She has noted that she feels “the day of a simple CFS patient versus control situation is probably over and we need to have CFS with a dimensionality…..”
In one exchange at the last CFSAC meeting, Dr. Jason questioned Dr. Unger about her reasoning for not acknowledging biomarkers on the website. When Dr. Unger answered that they don’t publish everything on the website, because they don’t know what the biomarkers mean, Dr. Jason pursued with:
Dr. Jason: “You feel that most people with this illness have some type of personality disorder? This might be suggested by some people looking at some of the CDC publications , and then the issue of dialogue and communications with research and patient communities with yourself…”(she hadn’t been returning phone calls, apparently).
Dr. Unger: “Again, personality is not my area of expertise so ..I will stand by the papers that the CDC has published because we are very careful with what we do. I will say that I have been “acting” therefore it’s different for me to make long range plans or decisions. So if I have been incommunicative its because I have been trying to move the program forward and feel its not necessarily the time for me to be reaching out yet. But its isn’t that I want to avoid people.”
We’ll see what she says now that she’s no longer “acting”. Pun intended.
This is not a matter of someone at the CDC being underqualified to appoint a branch chief. It’s not a matter of the CDC being out of touch with what the community wants. This is a scene from one of the final acts of a very long-running play, a lead-in to the culmination of the cliffhanger. And here’s the spoiler alert: I’d be willing to bet that by this time next year, according to the CDC….
If you have XMRV-related illness, you DON’T have CFS!
(Is anybody running book on this? I’ll give 10-1 odds. Guaron-TEED!)"