Can effexor be helpful for brain fog?

[candycraash999]

So ive been suffering from severe brain fog and moderate fatigue for 3 years now and i tried many diffrent drugs and supplements with no sucsess, lately ive got some improvment from macrodosing shrooms a couple of time but still things are pretty bad, i got prescribed effexor to treat brain fog and im really hesitant to try it after reading many horror stories so i wanted to check if anyone found it helpful and i would like to hear your expreinces, thank you very much.

 

[wastwater]

Effexor is usually tryed if other antidepressants haven’t worked it’s not a place i would start at
Fluvoxamine isn’t a bad one to start with but they may not suit at all

 

[jaybee00]

Effexor has a terrible reputation for withdrawal issues—I wouldn’t go near the stuff.

 

[Mary]

@candycraash999 - take a look at this thread: https://forums.phoenixrising.me/thr...ovide-a-similar-dose-to-b12-injections.75317/

I've read about B12 helping many people with brain fog. If you tried B12 before with no noticeable improvement, it might have been the form you took it in. It can be difficult to absorb or utilize when swallowed in pill form. I've had good results with liquid methylcobalamin (such as this) which I squirt under my tongue and let absorb.

And transdermal is also a good way to get it.

I did do injections (self-administered) for quite awhile but didn't notice a difference. It wasn't until I started using the liquid methylcobalamin, daily, in high doses (5,000 - 10,000 mcg.), that I noticed an increase in energy. I think with the injections which I did 3 or 4 times a week, I wasn't getting enough.

And if your serum levels of B12 are "normal" or even high, that doesn't necessarily mean you're getting enough. We can have high B12 levels in our blood, but not in our cells. I have to take high doses of B12 despite high levels in my blood. On hair analysis my cobalamin levels show up as undetectable, despite all the B12 I take.

So you said you've tried supplements, but have you tried B12? and if so, in what form and how did you take it - orally, sublingually, transdermally? That can make all the difference.

 

[Carl]

Cordyceps would probably help but don't go near Miltaris or you could suffer kidney failure. Don't believe the false reports about it helping the kidneys because real reports from Thailand say very differently where it has caused kidney failure because of it's very high levels of cordycepin which is a strong COX-2 inhibitor. CS-4 or another C. Sinsensis should be okay. Cordycepin levels are very low in anything but Militaris. I would avoid the Cordyceps mycelium which tend to have very low levels of beta glucans. The following site gives information about the different types and how it is grown. You can compare the constituents in the table lower down the page. Compare the Cordycepin levels of the different types.
A guide to Cordyceps
It should help lower inflammation which tends to contribute to brain fog. It might also improve your energy a little.

 

[ilivewithcfs]

Effexor helped me with my insomnia and brain fog. It didn't cure me completely, but definitely helped. Then I asked my doctor to switch to fluvoxamine, because it has a stronger antiinflammatory effect, and it worked much better.
I know, there are a lot of opinions regarding antidepressants, but I'm happy I'm on it. I had serious long lasting improvement and no side effects. I'm taking 100 mg.

 

[heapsreal]

I just don't think one will know until they try it.

For me effexor didn't help much but try to get off it was a shocker.

Fluvoxamine just turned me into a zombie and I struggled to stay awake the whole time on it, which was atleast a week maybe longer, but I couldn't function on it.

Low doses of zoloft or lexapro as in half a normal dose I could handle but only help brain fog and energy abit. Although the very first time I was on zoloft it did help alot, probably on it for a few months but every other time trying it, it didn't have the same effect.

Now if I need a boost I use as needed a low dose of Modafinil 50mg or 100mg of caffeine 1-2 times a week. The caffeine works for me I think because I don't drink tea or coffee, so I don't have a tolerance like most coffee drinkers.

Or 2-3 grams of tyrosine on an empty stomach can give one a boost as well as 500mg of Alpha gpc, a nootripic cholinergic supplement.

 

[ilivewithcfs]

I just don't think one will know until they try it.

Yeah, we are all different, that's for sure.

Fluvoxamine just turned me into a zombie and I struggled to stay awake the whole time on it, which was atleast a week maybe longer, but I couldn't function on it.

Fluvoxamine turned me into a sleepy zombie for the first week or two, but then this fog went away,and I started to feel much better. You've got to give SSRIs time to start working properly.

 

[heapsreal]

Fluvoxamine turned me into a sleepy zombie for the first week or two, but then this fog went away,and I started to feel much better. You've got to give SSRIs time to start working properly.

I agree but with fluvoxamine I couldn't as I was working which involved alot of driving, unfortunately.

It's a tricky question when someone asks what's the best antidepressant for certain symptoms in cfs because someone will rave about how good X drug worked and another will say X drug caused allsorts of side effects.

I think if someone with cfs is going to try an antidepressant for the first time, try to get prescribed the lowest dose tablet, not a capsule as they are easy to cut and start it at a quarter of a pill. Sometimes cfsers find that they felt ok on a quarter of a tablet but when they went higher, side effects started. So that's something to consider is staying on a low dose like a quarter of a tablet if it's working, only consider increasing the dose if you feel you're not getting any effects from it. But talk it over with your doctor of course.

It's just not black and white in cfs is it???

 

[heapsreal]

I agree but with fluvoxamine I couldn't as I was working which involved alot of driving, unfortunately.

It's a tricky question when someone asks what's the best antidepressant for certain symptoms in cfs because someone will rave about how good X drug worked and another will say X drug caused allsorts of side effects.

I think if someone with cfs is going to try an antidepressant for the first time, try to get prescribed the lowest dose tablet, not a capsule as they are easy to cut and start it at a quarter of a pill. Sometimes cfsers find that they felt ok on a quarter of a tablet but when they went higher, side effects started. So that's something to consider is staying on a low dose like a quarter of a tablet if it's working, only consider increasing the dose if you feel you're not getting any effects from it. But talk it over with your doctor of course.

It's just not black and white in cfs is it???

PS, I tried prozac years ago and the lowest dose pill I could get was a 20mg capsule. The first day I had increased energy and the first night I couldn't sleep lol. If I could have got a tablet version I would have liked to have tried it at 5mg a day????