ANOTHER INDICATION THAT GUT MICROBIOME MAY PLAY LARGER ROLE THAN BELIEVED IN M.E./CFS

[seamyb]

after heavy use of herbal antibiotics

Can you define heavy here? I'm taking cumin extract because it's the only thing that makes me feel better. I take a drop of it every few hours. It's antimicrobial. I'm looking into other things with similar properties but most have this damned antimicrobial property too.

I'm somewhat concerned about upsetting the gut microbes. I'm hoping it doesn't make it that far down the tract. Also hoping it's nowhere near "heavy" compared with your doses. Perhaps even the prebiotics I'm taking alongside will counter it.

I'm fairly certain I've a mold infection in the sinuses that I've harboured for years without it making me sick. When I quit an SSRI, I began to get sick and the gut symptoms were some of the first and most severe. So, one theory I have is that some bacterial strain responsible for detoxifying these mold toxins became impaired by the serotonin disruption after quitting the SSRI.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

Can you define heavy here?

Three weeks of 3-to-4- times-a-day doses of Olive Leaf extract, Oregano Extract, clove, and garlic, along with curcumin/ turmeric blend specifically to reduce the inflammation of an infected tooth. The first four are pretty strongly antibacterial, the curcumin/turmeric blend is the anti-inflammatory.

 

[seamyb]

Three weeks of 3-to-4- times-a-day doses of Olive Leaf extract, Oregano Extract, clove, and garlic, along with curcumin/ turmeric blend specifically to reduce the inflammation of an infected tooth. The first four are pretty strongly antibacterial, the curcumin/turmeric blend is the anti-inflammatory.

And was that just a single drop of each 3-4 times a day?

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

And was that just a single drop of each 3-4 times a day?

It was capsules of powdered/ground extract. So more than a drop. Too tired to drag downstairs rummage aroudn, find the bottles, and post the exact amounts. It was quite a high dose of each element I listed for you.

I had to hit the tooth/gum infection hard. They're very hard t dislodge once they get a grip. So pretty high amounts of the antibacterials, decent dose of turmeric/curcumin, which is a blend of fairly potent standardized curcuminoids, with turmeric added for balance and bioperine added for absorption, and in case there are other exipients whose effects science and/or commerce haven't isolated yet.

You might want to google the action of cumin as it transits the digestive tract to put your mind at ease, but I think you're OK.

 

[Wishful]

I'm somewhat concerned about upsetting the gut microbes.

I tried holding cumin in my mouth for 10+ minutes, then spitting it out and rinsing, and that was as effective for me as swallowing the spice. Since you're finding that cumin provides some benefit for you, you could try the sublingual and spitting/rinsing technique to see whether it is still effective without reaching your gut.

 

[Wishful]

but the gut flora is commensal,

I recently read an article about hippos sharing their gut flora by pooping (massively) in the ponds they feed in. It's nice to share!

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

I recently read an article about hippos sharing their gut flora by pooping (massively) in the ponds they feed in. It's nice to share!

The originators of FMT's !!!