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Constipation and Cold body

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Mylifesobright, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. Mylifesobright

    Mylifesobright

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    I have had mild constipation since I was a kid and also suffered with cold limbs. About 3 years ago my constipation got pretty bad. I began to eat more vegetables for fiber and take a magnesium citrate supplement ( which helped a lot)

    About three weeks ago I began taking Graviola for another reason and realized that it was making me extremely dehydrated (no matter how much I drank) which lead my constipation to become worse, so I stopped taking it

    Fast forward 3 weeks later. I usually take my magnesium citrate at night (since it relaxed me a bit for bed.) 2 days ago I forgot to take my dose, so I took it the next day. That day I had a BM but it was like pebbles. Yesterday I took extra magnesium and milk thistle. I feel the need to use the bathroom but it was the worst constipation I had in 2 years. I decided that I'm going to load up on fiber for, the next few weeks, reduce me protein intake for now and drink lots of water.

    I suffer from cold limbs for as long as I can remember. Yesterday after having my BM, about an hour later I decided it was time to go to bed. For some reason, I was shivering under my blanket. I had to put on 2 pairs of socks and gloves because I was so cold. Sometime during the night I took them off (I wasn't aware of doing this, but figure my body was warm enough, since I woke up without them) Sleeping with socks is never comfortable for me. lol

    *I'm thinking maybe I was so cold because my nervous system was in shock from all the stress I went through in the last few his to have a BM. I'm not sure, but does anyone have a theory?

    I have some turkey rhubarb coming in the mail today. I heard it's great for constipation. Constipation is not joke. I feel for the people that have to go through this on a daily basis. I don't use fleet enemas, but I just found out that you can become dependent on something as natural as magnesium citrate.
     
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  2. pamojja

    pamojja Senior Member

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    https://forums.phoenixrising.me/ind...n-treatment-and-vulva-pain.52825/#post-875157

    That sounds rather a bid odd assessment to me. Of course we as humans are indeed dependent on daily external supplies of essential vitamins, minerals and amino acids, oxygen and water the body isn't able to synthesis. That has always been and will always be as living systems. Just as we are dependent on breathing and food and movement and whatnot. Also needs can be highly individual.
     
  3. Mylifesobright

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    Yeah, I think getting magnesium through food sources is fine, but supplementing with it daily is not. I found several sites that say supplement is not the best.
    "Magnesium citrate can also be used to relieve routine constipation. However, WebMD cautions that milder laxatives should be used for this purpose because some patients develop a dependence on magnesium citrate and become unable to have a normal bowel movement without first taking it. "
    https://www.newsmax.com/fastfeatures/magnesium-citrate-risks-problems/2016/05/09/id/727938/

    I know hemp protein powder is a good source of magnesium and fiber, and I had a package just sitting there (tastes gross to me) but decided to use it.
     
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  4. pamojja

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    Well, what to say. With a severe Mg-deficiency I had to take supplemented oral elemental Mg at about 1.5 g per day just to avoid most severe very pain-full muscle cramps for the last 10 years, beside getting 0.7 g/d of Mg from food. Only Mg-sulfate IVs since November last year ceased these cramps completely.

    Don't think to be deficient in a essential mineral involved into up to 300 enzymatic reactions is even optional. Unless one wants to accumulate a whole assortment of chronic diseases and take a dozens of prescription meds for the rest of one's short life. WebMD of course would applaud, for all its pharmaceuticals sponsors.

    Also, the more active against constipation I consider actually ascorbic acid, which is still endogenously produced in mammals of same weight as humans at about 20 g per day from glucose (an amount most couldn't take orally without causing diarrhea). These same mammals produce endogenously up to 50-60 g/d on the spot in the case of infections.

    Humans and primates had a genetic mutation which disabled the endogenous synthesis of ascorbic acid. All pharmaceuticals have side-effects. The only side-effects of magnesium and ascorbic acid is instant diarrhea, which easily can prevented by finding the optimal individual dose where this doesn't happen. With only beneficial side-benefits.
     
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    I think you can theoretically become dependent on various things with constipation – the thinking is that they make the bowel lazy.

    I've had constipation all my life, except for when I became severely intolerant of potatoes (which gave me the opposite for three years!). On the advice of my GP, I just try to let my body do what it wants, when it wants for most of the time – but if a couple of weeks go by with no BM, I try one of several strategies.

    These include eating three or four apples in a short time, taking a big dose of vitamin C, taking some senna, using a sachet of the med the doctor gave me, or (if I'm capable of it at the time), scrubbing the bathroom floor. I know how weird the latter sounds, but inactivity does contribute to constipation quite a bit, and somehow the action of scrubbing a floor on hands and knees really helps! :rofl:

    My GP's opinion is that in the past, too much emphasis was put on daily BMs as being the desired norm. For a significant proportion of the population, it isn't normal – some people's 'regular' is once a week, every four days, or whatever. He's encouraged me to stop worrying about it and only intervene if it's just been too long, or I'm feeling really uncomfortable.

    I hope you manage to find strategies that work for you, @Mylifesobright – you're right, it isn't funny when it gets really bad! :)
     
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    I do take chelated magnesium it has helped with my myalgia pain and am able to function much better.
    My DO, MD does support me supplementing and has helped me to become much more stable in many ways that my body was not functioning.

    Big pharma does feed web Md. I look at WebMD like Wikipedia, a good place to begin to put my toe in the information. I trust the people on this board more than anyone, including some Drs.
     
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    @Mylifesobright the real wonder foods for constipation are:
    Apples (with skins)
    Lentils of any kind but particularly puy lentils and whole green lentils
    Beans and chickpeas (but lentils work better, though chickpeas are very good)
    Beetroot. Not just a slice or two pickled or something, but a couple of whole roots with dinner.
    Turnips (swede turnips are good)
    Flax seeds (if you can stomach them) a dessertspoon on cereal or fruit salad.
    Chia seeds.

    These are the best. The list goes on though. And there are other things like celery, dark leafies, tomatoes, etc.
    Oh yes, and enough water.

    Those foods aren't going to have a drastic laxative effect and shouldn't cause side effects if you are used to eating fibre. But they will help a LOT towards a natural bowel movement daily, if some of them are eaten daily.
    Coffee in the morning helps too!

    If you can do it without Big Pharma -better for you.
     
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    A glycerin suppository can help a lot too (just remembered that!)
     
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  9. PatJ

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    A BM requires more blood to be redirected to the colon. You may have low blood pressure and/or poor circulation (cold limbs are one sign of this). I have low BP and sometimes feel very drowsy before a BM due to the associated BP drop. In your case the BM and blood redirection might be leading to even lower BP and feeling very cold. If the BM was incomplete then maybe your body was still trying to move more through your colon which left you feeling cold for a longer period.

    Cayenne might help to relieve the coldness in your limbs by increasing circulation. Some people (including me) take cayenne tea 3 times per day. They usually start with 1/16 of a teaspoon, then work up, sometimes up to 1 teaspoon per serving. I haven't been able to get past 1/8 tsp per dose. It's hot stuff.

    Cascara Sagrada might be helpful in the short term, and possibly long term (after short term use) for constipation. I read this yesterday:
     
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    As @Wolfcub mentioned, flax is useful. It works well as a stool softener: well ground flax seed (1 tablespoon 1-3 times per day). Soak in warm water for 10 minutes to let it absorb the water and thicken. Flax contains soluble and insoluble fiber.

    Note that flax is high in omega-3 fatty acids. These can lower blood pressure. I can't take more 1 tablespoon per day without my BP dropping so much that I can barely stay awake.

    Here's some more info:
     
  11. Mylifesobright

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    Those are good suggestions. I actually have noticed when I use to exercise frequently at the gym things were a lot smoother. I definitely need to start exercising again.

    I couldn't imagine going once a week. I've always gone daily, but it's obvious It is still obvious I have constipation. The only times where I have gone more than 3 days have been few and I knew if was in for hell once I needed to go. If a healthy person go once a week though, I guess that is fine as long as they as it doesn't bother them physically.
     
  12. Mylifesobright

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    Thanks. Yesterday, I took 1 gram of magnesium and some fiber. Things are a little better.
     
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  13. Mylifesobright

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    Thanks for the list. I'm actually following the AIP diet right now, but I do hope to reintroduce lentils in the future.

    This experience made me realize how important water is. I mean, I was drinking the average, but if I'm trying to shoot for a gallon a day. I have an app on my phone that reminds me every hour :)
     
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  14. Mylifesobright

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    Thanks for the tip. I should have some on hand in the future just in case.
     
  15. Mylifesobright

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    What you say makes a lot of sense. That's probably what happened.

    I wish I could take cayenne, but I have a sensitive stomach and it hurts me, plus it's not allowed on the AIP diet which I am on. I have some rhubarb which is coming in the mail tomorrow. It's supposed to be good for constipation. Going by the reviews I've read, a lot of people seem to have success with it. I will give an update on it in a few days. I hope it doesn't cause stomach aches, because that is a side effect for some.

    I love Whelan's site. I came across it a few months ago. The Cascara Sagrada is tempting. I will see how it goes first with the rhubarb, then I'll buy the Cascara.
     
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    Consider getting it in a formula, such Dr. Christopher's Lower Bowel because it combines cascara sagrada with other herbs that can help it to work more effectively, and reduce chances of griping.
     

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