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There were objective measures, but it's unclear if they were negative as well, or if they were referring to only the questionaires. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02229942 But i'm not sure if it's possible to exclude placebo effects completely. Like this post states, objective measures...

Phase 2&3 results don't have to contradict each other. The placebo response in the new study could have been high. ME/CFS placebo responses were low in the past, but there wasn't much to be optimistic about. Patients had high expectations for this treatment.

I have added english subtitles. You can select them from the youtube settings. I will check it for mistakes tomorrow.

Overall very positive media coverage.

Do people with depression also feel apathy in their dreams? I feel normal emotions during my dreams, but instantly after waking up everything feels dull again.

I feel little in general. Sometimes my life feels like watching a movie on a screen, rather than being part of it. It probably has to do with my way of coping with the illness. When getting ill i started to relativize things, this is normal. The problem is, after 10+ years of being ill, you...

Too tired to read it all now, but when the RC of Psychiatrists disagrees, you know it's good news.

Meanwhile at the therapists office. Therapist: When reading through your medical record I noticed that many of your personality traits are risk factors for developing fybromyalgia. Patient: Could you give an example? Therapist: You don't seem to express your emotions. Pushing through when you...

Side note, this is a quote from Van der Meer, about his CFS hypothesis: (Rough translation) Source: https://www.volkskrant.nl/archief/chronische-zoektocht~a3250965/ I think a patient with objective lactic acid increase like @Mark Vink would like to have a word with him?

Don't allow them to change the subject, just stick to the CBT stuff. Even if the Norwegian trials would be biased, that would be no excuse for the PACE/CBT research to be biased as well.

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They mean the placebo response of the 'control' intervention like supportive listening or stretching exercises, right? Or the natural course of the no-treatment group? If it's the former, how they know these treatments are placebo treatments? And if it's a placebo, how do they know the other...

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If they talk about "poor", then can they please clarify what "good" emotional processing looks like? Because this seems to be one of those subjects where the patient is always wrong. I went to a MUPS center for my CFS and I experienced it all. Patient expresses much emotion > therapist thinks...

During my childhood I had something which, if I would have pursued treatment for it, probably would have been diagnosed as IBS. These days I rarely notice it anymore. But if I notice it, it's usually at the same time as when I'm feeling uncomfortable. Physically (e.g. when I'm cold) but...

For me: if the feeling of fatigue stays constant throughout the day, I know I'm still within my limits. If it increases during the evening (even the "nice" kind of fatigue like wanting to go to bed earlier), it's usually followed by waking up the next morning feeling like I have run a marathon...

I don't see why questioning the validity of this story, or asking for proof, would be considered rude or offending. No one is questioning his ME, they are questioning the context. From being a doctor who treats CFS patients, to becoming one with the stereotypical symptoms, to trying lots of...

With all the anecdotes being posted, I will add mine as well then. During a better period I was able to exercise regularly and eventually I managed to participate in an endurance sport event. Although fatigue was a bit less during this period, other symptoms remained the same. (Despite an...

The dutch CBT is similar to the GET used in GETSET. Also with a walking schedule. In my opinion it's just two different names for the same treatment.

That could be interpreted as "some patients feel more fatigue because they pay more attention to it". I hypothesized a physiological change why some patients feel extra fatigue, on top of a biological illness. Personally I don't see that as psychobabbler domain, some years ago I came across...

My sibling recovered 100% after meeting CDC criteria. But he started recovering in his teens. Research has shown that adolescents recover more often than adults. To answer your question: we don't know what causes recovery. So we also don't know your chances of recovery.

Personally, I don't rule out the option that CFS = physical problem + central sensitization. CBT/GET creates a strict daily schedule, which reduces the focus on symptoms. But if that would be the case, then the PACE style CBT/GET would be the wrong treatment. If someone tells me I'm...

Both numbers seem way too high, compared to other research and to my own experience. I used to go to a reasonably sized high school. One time I had a conversation with the school director and he said they never had a CFS patient before. (Out of +- 10.000 students) Doctors also don't seem to be...

They: "Well, the way I always explain it to my patients... Is by using what we call the 'biopsychosocial model'. We think it's important to make a distinction between predisposing, precipitating and perpetuating factors. This doesn't mean it's all in your head, like some people think, haha...

@Valentijn they moved to amsterdam.

Not sure if this is related to the research hypothesis, but something I would find interesting to know more about: Let's say, a patient is following a CBT treatment, and reports an increase in symptoms to the therapist. If I understand the BPS model correctly, there are now two possible...

The worst part about that graded exposure stuff is that the therapists are taught to reassure the patient, and to emphasize progress. Even if there is no progress (in case of GET). So the therapist is constantly telling you things like: "that wasn't as bad as expected, was it?" "look how much...

Is there any news about the progress of this report?