Why protective antibodies fade after COVID-19 vaccines

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So much pain and suffering—for what, if COVID-19 vaccine doesn't truly protect us?

Why protective antibodies fade after COVID-19 vaccines
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih...ctive-antibodies-fade-after-covid-19-vaccines

Original paper (subscription)
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/s...-protection-wanes-quickly/article68810068.ece

THE GIST The challenges developers face are vaccines durability, lack of immune correlates of protection, and inability to protect against infection and transmission. But the greatest challenge is the inability to confer long lasting protection ▼ Long-lasting plasma cells migrate to the bone marrow and survive for an extended duration, promoting the production of antibodies. The goal of all vaccine developers is for vaccines to generate these calls in the marrow The future of vaccines protecting against challenging or emerging infectious diseases lies in the design of new immunogens, their release mechanism, and the mechanisms of action of various adjuvants
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The traditional vaccines protect a large part of your life for a long time. The mRNA vaccine -if it works- for a very short period of time. You are also always lagging behind because the coronavirus is constantly mutating. So you are almost always too late if you make a vaccine for this because by the time you receive it there is already another mutation. mRNA is a new technology, Some experts consider it gene therapy. It was originally developed for cancer. The mRNA vaccine against corona does not protect against the spread of the virus, so you can simply transmit corona to your loved ones as a vaccinated person. When you boost, your IgG4 value increases significantly. DNA has also been found in these vaccines immunologists find this worrying. Add that to the side effects many heart problems especially in young men. And then decide whether you would still take this vaccine. This mRNA vaccine was brought onto the market far too quickly and the long-term effects are still unknown. Fortunately, corona is harmless for most people, especially younger ones. So you should never have vaccinated the ''whole'' world with this drug.
 
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Gijs said:
The mRNA vaccine -if it works- for a very short period of time.
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This sounds like speculation. If this was true, the solution would be simple, take a non-mRNA vaccine for Covid once and be done for it for life. There are plenty to choose from (Novavax, Sinovac, etc.)
 
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I think the question should be does the covid shot work at all, not whether it helps for a long time. It does not give long term or short term protection. There is no credible evidence it works at all and may do harm. If you believe in it, show the evidence that it works
 
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No one has defended the shot so lets look at what top doctors are saying about it and its effectiveness. Google, bing, and most browsers will only show information that approves of the shot and which attacks "antivaxers" or those who wish to discuss the harms of the shot and the lack of effectiveness.

One of these doctor Simone Gold who practices in naples florida. She moved from california where they tried to take away her medical licence for speaking against the governments position and policies on covid and the shot. She says:

“Covid can be treated without relying on masks, lockdown, or experimental therapies.” She believes the vaccine is dangerous, and has endorsed treatments that the FDA regards as ineffective for Covid-19, including hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

A very prominent doctor and scientist who is against the shot and says its harmful is robert malone who was one of the inventors of the rna technology used today. All his detractors can do is name calling and personal attacks. Anyone who speaks against the shot will be attacked by the establishment. Even here there are those who do not want an honest discussion
 
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Florida Guy said:
No one has defended the shot so lets look at what top doctors are saying about it and its effectiveness. Google, bing, and most browsers will only show information that approves of the shot and which attacks "antivaxers" or those who wish to discuss the harms of the shot and the lack of effectiveness.

One of these doctor Simone Gold who practices in naples florida. She moved from california where they tried to take away her medical licence for speaking against the governments position and policies on covid and the shot. She says:

“Covid can be treated without relying on masks, lockdown, or experimental therapies.” She believes the vaccine is dangerous, and has endorsed treatments that the FDA regards as ineffective for Covid-19, including hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

A very prominent doctor and scientist who is against the shot and says its harmful is robert malone who was one of the inventors of the rna technology used today. All his detractors can do is name calling and personal attacks. Anyone who speaks against the shot will be attacked by the establishment. Even here there are those who do not want an honest discussion
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So what search engine do you recommend?
 
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Husband of said:
So what search engine do you recommend?
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Its hard to say because all of them have been influenced to some degree by the governments position on the matter or like google and bing, they are actively trying to cover up the truth. Try an off brand browser. It also depends on how you word the question. Google is useless, you search for doctors against the covid shot and all it gives you is propaganda in favor of the shot. Information has been suppressed by WHO, us govt, and most or all browsers. Look at the vaers data if you can find it. it lists vaccine injuries but the data for the covid shot is very hard to find. It is out there though. Dr malone has published a lot of information. I will try to find it.
 
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A research group report produced a detailed PDF regarding "vaccine danger", which unfortunately cannot (technically) be posted here.
 
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