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Uncomfortable when standing? Faint easily? Think: POTS!

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Hi everyone, I wanted to share this in case it helps, particularly people newly doagnosed and wondering what to do.

Short summary: I was diagnosed with me/CFS in 2018 but have only recently been diagnosed with POTS. Addressing the POTS with medication has given me my most substantial improvement yet. I have been vaguely aware that I might have POTS for years but I just lumped it in with the me/cfs. I wish that I had investigated it sooner.

I have found it unpleasant / hard to be sitting or standing upright since my symptoms started. Initially I just lumped it in with the fatigue (my main symptom) but more recently I have been seeing a cardiologist.

He diagnosed me with POTS and has been trialling various medications. They have helped my symptoms enormously, and I wish I had pursued this sooner.

The key thing I wanted to share is that POTS has some treatments available which have a good chance of improving your symptoms, so if you suspect you might have it then you can:

  • Do a NASA lean test at home - it's quick and only requires some sort of heart rate monitor (blood pressure monitor is not essential). Info here: https://solvecfs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/10-Minute-NASA-Lean-Test-Clinicians.pdf
  • If it suggests POTS then definitely try and see a POTS-literate cardiologist. In the meantime you can also do a few things that might help:
  • Increase your salt intake - I just put some in my water, and add lots to my food.
  • Drink plenty of water along with the salt. The aim is to increase the amount of water in your bloodstream, which increases blood volume.
  • Try compression clothing. You can get medical tights, or sports ones from brands like skins, 2XU (get their highest compression level). I have also found an abdominal binder to be the most effective, it makes a huge difference. You can get them online, often they're used for post surgery recovery.

This will be old news to many of you, but I hope it helps someone 🙏

It links to something else I've been thinking about recently which is to separate out ones symptoms in order to get more directed help from doctors. For example, when I went to see doctors telling them I had me/CFS and I needed to lie down a lot, its easy for them to think "well of course you need to lie down a lot, you have fatigue". But if I had just told them I need to lie down a lot and don't tolerate standing, it might have triggered some fruitful investigations.
 

Sidney

Senior Member
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East Sussex, U.K.
Thank you for this.! I’d known about pots and OI ever since I was diagnosed with ME, (2016), but have sort of lost impetus to do anything except to just say ‘I have ME’, to doctors. I have moved to the UK meanwhile and have had few relationships with any NHS doctors, and just slowly deteriorated, from lack of the energy to see a doctor (difficult enough here at the moment). But you are absolutely right: to come up with specific complaints might make a real difference ! Thank You! 🌻
 
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Location
UK
Thank you for this.! I’d known about pots and OI ever since I was diagnosed with ME, (2016), but have sort of lost impetus to do anything except to just say ‘I have ME’, to doctors. I have moved to the UK meanwhile and have had few relationships with any NHS doctors, and just slowly deteriorated, from lack of the energy to see a doctor (difficult enough here at the moment). But you are absolutely right: to come up with specific complaints might make a real difference ! Thank You! 🌻
I'm so glad it struck a chord for you. I see you're in East Sussex, so if you have a helpful GP I'd recommend trying to see Dr Nick Gall in London if you want to pursue POTS, he has been very good and seems to be one of the leading UK specialists.

There are also some useful facebook groups, perhaps the most relevant is this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/749567311824934

and I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you might have, here or via PM :)
 

JES

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Yep, POTS can be to a good degree treatable to not very treatable depending on what form you have. For me and it seems for many long COVID patients and also a subset of ME/CFS patients, ANS dysfunction seems to be a core part of the disease.

With some form of hypovolemic POTS, salt intake seems to help. Not so for me. I either have what is sometimes referenced to as hyperadrenergic POTS or neuropathic POTS, which both are likely caused by some kind of autoimmunity or more generally, immune dysfunction. It probably relates to the adrenergic and muscarinic autoantibodies that some German laboratories test for, but for which doctors don't offer any treatment.

I learned I can only improve my POTS symptoms more significantly by targeting the immune system, which also happens to cause my ME/CFS like symptoms, so it goes full circle.
 

Judee

Psalm 46:1-3
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I wonder if I would have to not take the 25 mgs of Losartan I am on in order to do a home lean test?
I think you would have to wean off of them for the test because that's what I had to do this last week for my office lean test.

That and also some of the prep like regular hydration and sodium instead of the extra so many of us do. It's kinda hard.

The 24 hours before I was only supposed to drink 1000 ml of liquid and I probably ended up drinking about 1500 but I think the test still showed POTS.

I'm just waiting on my doctor to call me and let me know. The nurse said she would probably call this last Thursday but then I also did a Holter test on Wed-Fri so maybe she's waiting for those results too before calling me. ??
 
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Messages
65
Location
UK
Yep, POTS can be to a good degree treatable to not very treatable depending on what form you have. For me and it seems for many long COVID patients and also a subset of ME/CFS patients, ANS dysfunction seems to be a core part of the disease.

With some form of hypovolemic POTS, salt intake seems to help. Not so for me. I either have what is sometimes referenced to as hyperadrenergic POTS or neuropathic POTS, which both are likely caused by some kind of autoimmunity or more generally, immune dysfunction. It probably relates to the adrenergic and muscarinic autoantibodies that some German laboratories test for, but for which doctors don't offer any treatment.

I learned I can only improve my POTS symptoms more significantly by targeting the immune system, which also happens to cause my ME/CFS like symptoms, so it goes full circle.
Yes good points and a useful reminder that with all of these awful diseases everyone responds very differently to different interventions
 

JES

Senior Member
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not taking my BP medications it sounds like its infeasible for me to ever confirm POTS
If they lower your pulse as well, it may be hard to. The simplest definition of POTS only requires your pulse to raise by 30 bpm when moving to standing position. If you fulfill this, then you have POTS according to this definition and if you do not, you may still have some form of ANS dysfunction.
 

Sidney

Senior Member
Messages
146
Location
East Sussex, U.K.
I'm so glad it struck a chord for you. I see you're in East Sussex, so if you have a helpful GP I'd recommend trying to see Dr Nick Gall in London if you want to pursue POTS, he has been very good and seems to be one of the leading UK specialists.

There are also some useful facebook groups, perhaps the most relevant is this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/749567311824934

and I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you might have, here or via PM :)
Fantastic 🕊️ I remember hearing of Dr Gall years ago, but I just assumed I was out of date – you have inspired me to be a little proactive for once!🙏🏻