Super Gut

[stridor]

I have been on Freddd's Protocol since 2012. I am down to one needle of B12 daily now.

B12 was a huge step forward and Dr Davis' program and the SIBO Yogurt has been just as big. I am 70 now and my waist is smaller, but my weight is the same....I appear to be putting on muscle. I do take testosterone so it's possible. I am stronger and have more motivation and stamina. The real difference is in mental clarity, disposition, and social engagement. I am a different person. It's been over 2 months now and it is appearing to stick. (I've stopped waiting for the other shoe to drop).

Caveats....I don't have a colon, or ileocecal valve = nothing to stop bacteria from "climbing the pipe". I have leaky gut as indicated by multiple food sensitivities and other indications of LPS loading and generalised inflammation. I have been trying to get help with my gut for years, but my Dr kept brushing me off.

Anyway, I don't need anything I just wanted to share this information that I'm sure has been shared before. I don't know what others have reported, but this program has really turned things around for me.

 

[pamojja]

Been a member of his old TrackYourPlaque forum, until membership fees became too expensive.

Years later I tried the Reuteri curd (correct me, if this is different from the SIBO curd), but felt no difference or saw increased blood testosterone. 2 month trial too.

 

[stridor]

Been a member of his old TrackYourPlaque forum, until membership fees became too expensive.

Years later I tried the Reuteri curd (correct me, if this is different from the SIBO curd), but felt no difference or saw increased blood testosterone. 2 month trial too.

Did you follow the whole program? No grains, high omega 3, high Vitamin D, low carb and the rest of it?

 

[pamojja]

Did you follow the whole program? No grains, high omega 3, high Vitamin D, low carb and the rest of it?

I suffered not only a walking-disability from PAD, but also COPD and PEMs. So I needed whole sets of additional interventions.

Only CAC scanning isn't routinely done here, and therefore expensive. Since not routinely done, also no experienced technician for reading it properly available, most probably. But I had a sure measure of improvement or worsening by my painful walking distance. Besides I used regular CIMT measurement as substitute for CAC scans.

If you're more interested in details: Here the most complete documentation of remissions: https://www.longecity.org/forum/stacks/stack/111-pad-and-additional-remissions/

 

[stridor]

I suffered not only a walking-disability from PAD, but also COPD and PEMs. So I needed whole sets of additional interventions.

I'll take it that you did not follow the complete program. Not through any fault of your own - you had a lot of things going on at that time. I've wondered what L reuteri yogurt would do if someone did not take all the other actions to strengthen the gut wall. You are saying that it does virtually nothing and I find that informative.
Did you take the 3+ gms of omega 3 daily?

 

[pamojja]

Did you follow the whole program? No grains, high omega 3, high Vitamin D, low carb and the rest of it?

I suffered not only a walking-disability from PAD, but also COPD and PEMs. So I needed whole sets of additional interventions.

I'll take it that you did not follow the complete program

Why you're misunderstanding - especially with the claim of improved mental clarity and engagement? I took the whole and much, much more. Read the details. Reuteri curd came many years after TrackYourPlaque.

Right at the time of remission from PAD had my first and only ubiome test. With more diversity than 93% of all tested by ubiome at that time. Despite such diversity and remission, quote:

0x Lactobacillus or Bifidobacterium than Selected Samples. These are samples from individuals who report no ailments and high levels of wellness.

Did you take the 3+ gms of omega 3 daily?

Do be exact, 3.9 g/d of EPA/DHA content for 16 year now. Why you don't click the link and see exact average intakes for about 200 distinct supplements yourself right away? Of course, including vitamin D and the rest of it. But much, much more.

 

[stridor]

Why you're misunderstanding - especially with the claim of improved mental clarity and engagement? I took the whole and much, much more. Read the details. Reuteri curd came many years after TrackYourPlaque.

Right at the time of remission from PAD had my first and only ubiome test. With more diversity than 93% of all tested by ubiome at that time. Despite such diversity and remission, quote:

I'm sorry that you're having a hard time. The fact is you are difficult to understand and I suspect you've been told this before. Perhaps, English is your second language.

It seems that the program is not for you and there's nothing wrong with that. It will not be helpful for 50% of the population. I guess I'm not sure why you responded to this thread.

 

[pamojja]

English is your second language.

English is my second language. However, my use of the English word additional does mean additional, and not instead, as you misunderstood.

Just yesterday I've been told after a very long post:

Thank you for this response—it really means a lot to read something so balanced and thoughtful.

Only you - with increased mental clarity and engagement - told me with many other posts yesterday, to have a hard time to understand such simple English sentences.

I'm sorry that you're having a hard time.

Where did you read that? - Misunderstood again as the opposite of what was written.

With 3 most unlikely remissions of chronic diseases, I'm exceptional lucky! The more lucky, since this does correlate with a very resilient and exceptionally diverse microbiome. If you didn't know, also Hadza hunter-gatherer in Tanzania thrive without Lactobacillus or Bifidobacterium too, and still eat a very close to our ancestor's diet.

It will not be helpful for 50% of the population. I guess I'm not sure why you responded to this thread.

Well, you apparently first did imply an agenda, by immediately accusing the cause of my failure with your promoted curd, by speculative accusing wrong behavior on my side: Not to follow the program of Dr. Davis, which just before I wrote, I did. Then ("not your fault") and now you toned it down, but only in those fractions of gaslighting. Completely made up, from nothing I wrote.

I guess I'm not sure why you responded to this thread.

Because you, probably innocently due to lack of understanding complexity, mingled in many misunderstandings from the first post onward.

OPs prime example:

Anyway, I don't need anything I just wanted to share this information that I'm sure has been shared before.

Forums are discussion forums, where through the contribution of other perspectives all participating can learn from, and thereby expand their knowledge. And not for an OP alone.

- You misapprehended this as a blog? Where nobody with more divers experiences will chime in?
- You don't need more comprehensive experiential knowledge? - Especially, not confirming your opinion?

All others active members use this forum for engagement. Or read only, if they are avoiding engagement in advance of experiential knowledge.

You are welcome! - All my former objections do imply good-will towards you only.

Just be aware, this is a discussion forum. Others will chime in to advance knowledge of all participating. And if you don't want that for a new thread of you, of course, you should also voice such a wish from your side clearly from the beginning.

It will be respected then, and let alone.

But don't use loads of made-up accusations, to deter from discussions. Use reasons instead, which are reflecting, what was formerly said.

 

[stridor]

English is my second language. However, my use of the English word additional does mean additional, and not instead, as you misunderstood.

Yeah, I didn't read that that last entry. I don't know why you want to argue with me. I found something that helped me and came back to this site to share it with people in case it would be helpful to any of them. That's it. It wasn't helpful for you and that's fine, it won't work for everyone.

 

[pamojja]

I don't know why you want to argue with me.

I only argue for engagement in the advance of knowledge, and thereby engagement with community. In this respect, nothing personal to do with you, if you don't like to engage. Or don't like to learn more.

You implied, first, that it would help only with the preparation of TrackYourPlaque strategies. You made that up, along with me not having done the preparation. I corrected those false accusations.

Therefore, you corrected this initial implication (by gaslighting) too, and that you're actually aware that it can't help everyone (implying now, that even years of TrackYourPlaque preparation isn't the sole factor, for it to work).

Therefore, me arguing your initial implications did correct their underlying misunderstandings. Mere assumptions advanced through knowledge. Mission of advancing knowledge accomplished.

I found something that helped me and came back to this site to share it with people in case it would be helpful to any of them.

Great, stick with it. I hope it will continue helping to improve.

 

[stridor]

I only argue for engagement in the advance of knowledge, and thereby engagement with community. In this respect, nothing personal to do with you, if you don't like to engage. Or don't like to learn more.

My only assertion was that it helped me feel better. I know nothing about Track Your Plaque, nor do I have personal knowledge whether this program is helpful for heart disease, dementia prevention, shrinking plaque or easing arthritis. It has given me more energy and cleared fog. I put it on people's radar and they are free to do whatever they want with this information. Cheers

 

[pamojja]

I know nothing about Track Your Plaque,

For knowing nothing about, you did respond with enough details, assumptions and made-up personal accusations about or me, in the first 4 posts already repeatedly:

,, a huge step forward and Dr Davis' program and the SIBO Yogurt has been just as big.

Did you follow the whole program? No grains, high omega 3, high Vitamin D, low carb and the rest of it?

I'll take it that you did not follow the complete program. ... I've wondered what L reuteri yogurt would do if someone did not take all the other actions to strengthen the gut wall. You are saying that it does virtually nothing and I find that informative.
Did you take the 3+ gms of omega 3 daily?

I'm sorry that you're having a hard time.

And am glad, you now reconsidered. To what you really experienced: improvement in cognitive function with a course of Reuteri curd with many health-difficulties.

I put it on people's radar and they are free to do whatever they want

It would have been a lot easier if you had stuck to your intent, and therefore don't argue with what others, like me, experienced with an equal trial of Reuteri curd: no improvement whatsoever.

Which shouldn't come as a surprise. In someone like me, with already maxed out microbiome diversity.

 

[stridor]

For knowing nothing about, you did respond with enough details, assumptions and made-up personal accusations about or me, in the first 4 posts already repeatedly:

I've never heard of Track Your Plaque until I heard it from you. I have only heard of the Super Gut book and the Infinite Health Program.

The Statement: Did you follow the whole program? No grains, high omega 3, high Vitamin D, low carb and the rest of it?....was a fishing trip. These are things from the current iteration of the program I follow and I was taking a shot in the dark.

Someone needing to do more than the Track Your Plaque protocol means nothing to me. I don't know if it's equivalent of the current program, or if it is more or less, or something completely different.
Not knowing when L reuteri became part of a program I never heard of is not a reflection on me.

You're the one who likes arguing. I was just going to make a friendly post and leave.
And I think I can be forgiven for thinking that someone with your constellation of health concerns might still be having some difficulties. Good on you for figuring things out. I too, have been unravelling a 30 year mystery.
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[sb4]

@stridor What is the Freddd protocol you're following. I have previously tried various forms of B12 with minimal success however I very recently have found specifically b12 injections to be helping, even when sublinguals and transdermal b12 oils did very little.

 

[stridor]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I remember when I started injectable. It's for the treatment of CFS and it could be a problem for people with COMT. They would be able to tell you better.

The four ingredients are methylcobalamin, adenosycobalamin, methylfolate and L carnitine fumerate. It is my opinion that people need to pay attention to B2 if they initiate this program and often potassium.

I had polyuria and was peeing every 12 to 20 minutes, always carrying a water bottle. This was the first symptom to resolve. The second was an almost psychotic depression - a gift that SAMe brought me This program allowed me to return to work.

The mB12 is ordered by my Dr and supplied by a compounding pharmacy. It is light sensitive and I wrap it in tin foil. If you've done some reading you know that if you respond to B12, it means that you were short on it. Some people advise to take extra for about a year to allow for maximum nerve healing.

The B12 oils.....from that chap in Oz?

Also, if you're not absorbing/transporting B12 particularly well, keep an eye open for other incidents of malabsorption. I was low in Vit D, iron and riboflavin. I found out that I had to pour the capsules of folate into the buccal pouch to get enough in the early days.