Resistance to antifungal shampoo

[Dan M]

Ahoy.

I seem to be down to one shampoo (Pyrithione Zinc 2%) for treating dandruff. All the others are no longer effective (Ketoconazole 2%, Oilatum Ciclopirox Olamine, Tar, Selsun Selenium Sulphide 2.5%, Salicylic Acid 2.5%).

Is there any long term strategy here as not sure what happens when my current one no longer works.

Anyone else had this issue?

Cheers for any ideas.

 

[percyval577]

Hallo Dan,

I don´t know the issue you ´re adressing here, but

I had a fungus problem most likely with candida albicans (served by caffeine, manganese, carbs and meat), which resolved after intake of vitB5 especially in combination with vitB3, small resp. very small amounts only, say in tea or yoghurt.

I tried antifungals on my feet, but they strangely didn´t work any sufficiently.

 

[Dan M]

Hallo Dan,

I don´t know the issue you ´re adressing here, but

I had a fungus problem most likely with candida albicans (served by caffeine, manganese, carbs and meat), which resolved after intake of vitB5 especially in combination with vitB3, small resp. very small amounts only, say in tea or yoghurt.

I tried antifungals on my feet, but they strangely didn´t work any sufficiently.

Hi percyval577.

Thanks for your response.

I react adversely to supplements so I imagine the route for me is a topical solution?

 

[Learner1]

Hi percyval577.

Thanks for your response.

I react adversely to supplements so I imagine the route for me is a topical solution?

You can take supplements topically in oil or cream form. They can also be injected.

What is the problem you're trying to solve with the shampoo? These products arent meant for long term use. Why is your issue persisting?

And, why can't you take oral supplements? All, or specific ones? As a multivitamin or separate?

Nutrient deficiencies or imbalances can lead to intolerance of various substances, so it becomes a vicious cycle

 

[Dan M]

You can take supplements topically in oil or cream form. They can also be injected.

What is the problem you're trying to solve with the shampoo? These products arent meant for long term use. Why is your issue persisting?

And, why can't you take oral supplements? All, or specific ones? As a multivitamin or separate?

Nutrient deficiencies or imbalances can lead to intolerance of various substances, so it becomes a vicious cycle

Hi Learner1.

I'm trying to plan ahead for when no antifungal shampoo I can get over the counter works as I would then have permanent itchy flaky scalp. I don't know why it persists, exhausted/compromised immune system from ME/CFS?

I use them once a week for long term dandruff control. Had a blast of dandruff 15 years ago, then stayed on Ketaconazole once a week for around 10 years, then it stopped working and so tried alternatives listed above which worked for years or some for just months.

I react to all oral supplements unfortunately, also injected supplements.

 

[Lisa108]

Have you tried piroctone olamine ("octopirox")? I am using Sebamed Anti-Dandruff Shampoo since years now and it is still working. Had the same problem with "resistance" with ketoconazol-products etc. before.

Don't know about the UK, but in Germany you can buy piroctone olamine powder and mix it into any shampoo.

 

[Judee]

I think there are some tea tree shampoos as well.

Also sometimes the suggestions on this other website are a little over the top for me but I have gotten some good ideas as well from it: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/top-natural-remedies-for-dandruff.html

Read down through the comments on that page as well because sometimes someone will suggest something different.

 

[Dan M]

Have you tried piroctone olamine ("octopirox")? I am using Sebamed Anti-Dandruff Shampoo since years now and it is still working. Had the same problem with "resistance" with ketoconazol-products etc. before.

Don't know about the UK, but in Germany you can buy piroctone olamine powder and mix it into any shampoo.

Hi Lisa.

Yes I forgot to add I have tried piroctone olamine (Sebclair) as well unfortunately it has no effect.

 

[Dan M]

I think there are some tea tree shampoos as well.

Also sometimes the suggestions on this other website are a little over the top for me but I have gotten some good ideas as well from it: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/top-natural-remedies-for-dandruff.html

Read down through the comments on that page as well because sometimes someone will suggest something different.

Hi Judee.

Any brands in particular? Thankyou I'll check out the website.

 

[Judee]

Any brands in particular?

Not that I have tried. With my chemical sensitivities I have a hard time finding shampoos, even organic ones without fragrance. I have sometimes poured some tea tree oil in my hand and then the dish soap I use for shampoo and that combination felt nice and helped with the itchiness.

I have slight dandruff but had to use pyrithione zinc shampoos when I was a teen because the flakes were nickel size (sorry, not sure what the UK money equivalent of that would be).

I am using the pyrithione zinc now in a soap bar that has no fragrance and then I follow that up with the free and clear dish soap. This is the soap bar I use but wow, it's seems to be really expensive on Amazon's UK site. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanicream-...eywords=Vanicream+Z-Bar&qid=1613523269&sr=8-1

Oh, and I just remembered in many reviews I've read for neem oil that some people use that to treat their dandruff. I put in "neem oil for dandruff" on that same UK site and these are some of the results that were returned: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=neem+o...+oil+dandr,aps,256&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_14