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By scanning the brains of healthy volunteers, researchers at the National Institutes of Health saw the first, long-sought evidence that our brains may drain some waste out through lymphatic vessels, the body’s sewer system. The results further suggest the vessels could act as a pipeline between the brain and the immune system.
“We literally watched people’s brains drain fluid into these vessels,” said Daniel S. Reich, M.D., Ph.D., senior investigator at the NIH’s National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS) and the senior author of the study published online in eLife(link is external). “We hope that our results provide new insights to a variety of neurological disorders.”
Hi people have mixed views about Raymond Perrin from what I've seen on PR about his approach but he uses lymphatic drainage on the chest and neck to relieve ME symptoms. The sessions I had from a Perrin therapist didn't involve anything with the legs. There isn't much info on his website so you have to buy his book which is annoying. But as I've had issues with swollen glands in my neck I thought it would be a good thing to try. I couldn't keep up the programme of twice daily massages as I found it too much and my skin is sensitive. I do feel that having a sluggish lymph system May be playing a role.@Never Give Up
Thank you for posting the article about the lymph system and the brain. I hope you will excuse me taking it off track a bit.
I recently found out via a lymphoscintigraph ( in which dye was injected into the foot between the toes in a similar way to the injection of dye in the brain in the article) that my lymph system in my lower legs is functionally highly reduced. There is very little lymph flowing and since it is the sewer system for the body, I have wondered whether the lymphedema has had any contribution to the development of ME. If my body is not disposing of its rubbish, what effect will that be having?
Unfortunately lymphedema is also hugely underresearched like ME, but if anyone has any further thoughts in this, I would be glad to read them. Thanks.