Poor reactions to magnesium and zinc after multiple trials

[bigmillz]

Hi everyone,

I've tried to add magnesium and zinc to my vitamin routine a few times, with poor results each time. Some specifics:

-500mg magnesium citrate spread through the day for 1 month - slightly tired, felt very energized once I removed the magnesium
-400mg magnesium glycinate - 1 week trial and 1 single day trials - absolutely exhausted upon waking
-66mg magnesium glycinate - 1 single day trial - took before bed, exhausted for ~2 days following
and
-1 tablet Jarrow zinc balance every night for a week - exhausted every day
-1 tablet Jarrow zinc balance 1 single night - exhausted next day
-50mg zinc gluconate every night for a week - exhausted, better after stopping

Should I just avoid these? I eat a very rich diet with a variety of foods, and very little processed food. Lots of oats, fish, nuts, beans - all foods high in magnesium and zinc.

 

[helen1]

Not everyone's deficient in magnesium and zinc! If you take too much of something, you cause a deficiency in something else. Sounds like that's what might be happening.

 

[bigmillz]

Not everyone's deficient in magnesium and zinc! If you take too much of something, you cause a deficiency in something else. Sounds like that's what might be happening.

Hmm...didn't even think of that. Good point, thank you.

 

[Justin30]

HI,

There is vey good reason as to why you are feeling very exhausted using these supplements.

Both Zinc and Magnesium promote deeper sleep REM sleep. I used to use them when i was bodybuilding to restore my body and heal. When I was healthy they would make me sleep for 8-10 hours deep and was exhausted for like 3 hours in the morning.

Both minerals are relaxing and if you jave true ME there can be a deficit. Dr. Chenney used magnesium throughout the day and night to calm the NMDA Receptors which caused overstimulation in ME.

See wikipedia definition on ZMA
ZMA (Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate, Magnesium Aspartate and Vitamin B6) is a supplement used primarily by athletes, gymnasts, and bodybuilders. It is most often used as a recovery aid; notably, studies show that ZMA helps the body achieve deeper levels of REM sleep.

Note: just taking zinc and magnesium will cause this affect.

I would research this more and maybe have testing done for your magnesium levels if concerned.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Zinc caused me severe anemia (antagonizes Iron), and I suspect potential side effects from Magnesium can be increased need for vit D and B1 (and other B vits), affecting thyroid, stomach acidity and even through some cascade effect affect Iron, who knows.

 

[liverock]

These wheels show Magnesium interactions with other minerals and vitamins.
Too much magnesium can cause imbalances including lowered electrolyte levels,Sodium(Na) & Potassium(K) as well as the methylation B vitamins B12 & B10, all of which can cause excessive fatigue.

http://www.traceelements.com/docs/Magnesium Wheels.pdf

 

[Grigor]

I sleep very badly on magnesium. Wake up too early and stuff. Anyone else as well? Or explanation for it?

 

[Justin30]

All good points based what is being refered too it is important to talk to your Dr and have certain levels tested of possible.

 

[Gondwanaland]

I sleep very badly on magnesium. Wake up too early and stuff. Anyone else as well? Or explanation for it?

Low B6? Low calcium?

 

[JES]

Zinc also affects copper balance, low copper can lead to anemia itself. Although for men it's usually zinc that is low and not copper. Jarrow zinc balance contains both zinc and copper to balance things out though. It seems a bit surprising it would cause much or any reaction, 15 mg is not much more than what you get daily from an average diet.

 

[enough_is_enough]

After I started zinc picolinate (other Zinc supplements made me nauseated) I also became extremely tired after taking it. For some reason I kept going after 3 weeks this side affect went away. Zinc Picolinate is one of my main supplements today. I think the reason for the extra fatigue was the high copper chelation. (Just my opinion) Also my son then at the age of 8 started to show sighs of cfs symptoms. After I gave him Zinc and Niacinamide every day, today at 14 he is ok.
Zinc made a huge difference for me in many areas.

 

[Justin30]

Zinc is good for immune health.

 

[Grigor]

Low B6? Low calcium?

Low B6. Not sure. Calcium I take everyday though.

 

[hvac14400]

Not everyone's deficient in magnesium and zinc! If you take too much of something, you cause a deficiency in something else. Sounds like that's what might be happening.

i got really strong cramps in my legs after a workouts (heck - even in my palms!), so was advised to take magnesium and guess what - felt as bad as OP.

@bigmillz

what's your blood pressure? magnesium drops it, so you feel like shyt if you have hypotension.