Pendulum swinging the other way again?
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southwestforests
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If you are hallucinating, it is perhaps a group hallucination - there is a health email newsletter I subscribed to at some not remembered time for some not remembered reason, and right now I can't pin down its name, even after a quick scan of the email trash folder too, anyway, in recent months their ME/CFS related content has been giving me a similar impression to the point where I thought about unsubscribing.
Maybe I did, and that's why I can't find any of them.
I think earlier this year they even advertised a couple seminars about such things.
Question is
is it the same people as a decade or two ago pushing the philosophy, or is it a new generation?
I think it's the same people, continually pushing their nonsense. They have too much invested in their reputations based on their theories to allow them to be challenged or fade into obscurity.
They don't want people to ask "Hey, are you the guy who had that theory that proved false and hurt lots of people?"
They don't want people to ask "Hey, are you the guy who had that theory that proved false and hurt lots of people?"
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Youtube has a lot of brain retraining scammers. Some channels are: cfs recovery, CFS Health, Raelan Agle.
They all have hundreds of recovery stories. Which I find perplexing cause I have been trying to recover for 29 years and have done things that made me better like diet, work on sleep habits which entails trying to get up and go to bed at the same time, being active enough during the day to give me a good chance of not waking up in the middle of the night, avoiding water damaged buildings are the main ones that come to mind.
They push a lot of this also but there isn't anything novel about this. Actually the brain retraining isn't novel either but they push it as if it was. That and they push it as if it is a cure. They don't talk about getting better they talk about being cured. And of course they charge for it.
They use a lot of pretty slick marketing practices also, almost like they took a Tony Robbins course on how to sell snake oil. One of the things I noticed is they blather on and on about the same things everyone knows about and have tried but they don't really give you anything you don't know so you will keep watching the video just like infomercials.
Unlike infomercials it is disturbing to me because it makes me second guess weather their might actually be something to brain retraining I am missing. It is also disturbing to see all the pleasant, supportive, positive comments. I am offended by this nonsense I find it hard to believe I am the only one that has a problem with it. That and I just don't understand how anyone with CFS could actually find anything useful coming out of these channels.
It's almost like there is this group think cult like thing going on where the group align's with the positions of the channel
I see it as a very damaging propaganda tool even if it isn't coming from the usual sources like the pace authors.
It undermines better sources of information like this forum.
A lot of the the recovery stories mostly seem to be from australia also which is peculiar.
They all have hundreds of recovery stories. Which I find perplexing cause I have been trying to recover for 29 years and have done things that made me better like diet, work on sleep habits which entails trying to get up and go to bed at the same time, being active enough during the day to give me a good chance of not waking up in the middle of the night, avoiding water damaged buildings are the main ones that come to mind.
They push a lot of this also but there isn't anything novel about this. Actually the brain retraining isn't novel either but they push it as if it was. That and they push it as if it is a cure. They don't talk about getting better they talk about being cured. And of course they charge for it.
They use a lot of pretty slick marketing practices also, almost like they took a Tony Robbins course on how to sell snake oil. One of the things I noticed is they blather on and on about the same things everyone knows about and have tried but they don't really give you anything you don't know so you will keep watching the video just like infomercials.
Unlike infomercials it is disturbing to me because it makes me second guess weather their might actually be something to brain retraining I am missing. It is also disturbing to see all the pleasant, supportive, positive comments. I am offended by this nonsense I find it hard to believe I am the only one that has a problem with it. That and I just don't understand how anyone with CFS could actually find anything useful coming out of these channels.
It's almost like there is this group think cult like thing going on where the group align's with the positions of the channel
I see it as a very damaging propaganda tool even if it isn't coming from the usual sources like the pace authors.
It undermines better sources of information like this forum.
A lot of the the recovery stories mostly seem to be from australia also which is peculiar.