My allergies dissapeared in Spain. Why?

[Wendy 0102]

Hi, I have many food intolerances, beauty products intolerances, dog ‘allergy’
Although test chow no allergies ( except perfume, nikkel, colofonium contact allergies). It are intolerances or pseudo allergies. Maybe some kind of MCAS (also difficult to diagnose and find a practitionar for).
We travel sometimes and in Florence I experienced an improvement in allergies and ME.
But this month we went to Pinoso in Spain. We stayer for 5 days in the secluded mountains. It is warm (30 degrees celcius), dry climate and has low air pollution. Miraculously my allergies dissapeared, even to the dogs that lived there. My ME was somewhat better. How can this be?

I do not understand it. Is it because it is dry, because of the mediterrenean climate, because there is no traffic there and the air quality is better?

I would really like your help 🩷

I have tried antihistaminicums but they gave me to many side effects. I am almost allergic to all suppplements which makes treating my ME that much more difficult.

 

[bad1080]

low air pollution

this would be my guess

 

[Viala]

I've read a similar story about Costa Rica, I need to dig that up.

It can also be diet change, maybe the food there is more local? Or something in the water? Although I am rooting for dry and warm climate and less polution including electromagnetic, this also worked for others who traveled to the desert.

 

[southwestforests]

Miraculously my allergies dissapeared, even to the dogs that lived there. My ME was somewhat better. How can this be?

Brings to mind when I moved from the Kansas City metro area to this little farm burg in early 2000s, my allergies just simply went away.

Except for the thing with perfumes and colognes and airfresheners, which had been ruled a chemical intolerance instead of an allergy.
Any way, the actual allergies were gone and stayed gone until the flood in 2019.
After the air smelled moldy for about a week and a half the allergies came back.
And have stayed.


I'm guessing the change is just because the environment is so different.
Different environment with different stuff in it.

 

[Wendy 0102]

Brings to mind when I moved from the Kansas City metro area to this little farm burg in early 2000s, my allergies just simply went away.

Except for the thing with perfumes and colognes and airfresheners, which had been ruled a chemical intolerance instead of an allergy.
Any way, the actual allergies were gone and stayed gone until the flood in 2019.
After the air smelled moldy for about a week and a half the allergies came back.
And have stayed.


I'm guessing the change is just because the environment is so different.
Different environment with different stuff in it.

Wow, but now the mold is dried up? Why are your allergies not going away again? Must be very frustraties for you

 

[Wendy 0102]

I've read a similar story about Costa Rica, I need to dig that up.

It can also be diet change, maybe the food there is more local? Or something in the water? Although I am rooting for dry and warm climate and less polution including electromagnetic, this also worked for others who traveled to the desert.

If you find the story about Costa Rica please share. I would be interested in reading that

 

[linusbert]

i was born and lived in munich germany for 10 years and i was sick every month at least once or twice. then we moved to the land, almost never been sick again (well the normal sick like a flu like once a year or so) until i moved back to the city 10 years later.

 

[Viala]

If you find the story about Costa Rica please share. I would be interested in reading that

Found it, it was on reddit, it's mostly about CFS
Found a cure for my sons Chronic Fatigue Syndrome!!!

 

[southwestforests]

Wow, but now the mold is dried up?

That specific mold is likely gone, but this is farming area which gets lots of rain most years, and can be rather humid, or on the flip side have droughts some years, so there's probably always some mold in the ground & getting stirred up.

Related: sometimes after rain the air does smell like mold; sometimes it simply smells like dirt and plants after a rain; & other times it smells like a fish tank.
I don't know what makes the difference.

Why are your allergies not going away again?

Excellent question. Neither Medicare nor my checkbook will pay for the medical testing to research that.

Must be very frustraties for you

Yes, greatly frustrating.

As are ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, diverticular disease, a few different musculoskeletal issues, tinnitus, those chemical intolerances, and a couple other things.

 

[Artemisia]

Are you from the US? Europe's food supply is much better than the US. They actually have laws protecting consumers from toxic additives in food unlike the US which only benefits industry. Americans aren't fat solely because of car culture. And no GMOs in the EU unless that has changed. In addition to probably cleaner air and other environmental factors. Much less nuclear testing in Europe as well. Our own government has nuked us in the US for "tests" >1000 times.

 

[southwestforests]

Europe's food supply is much better than the US. They actually have laws protecting consumers from toxic additives in food unlike the US which only benefits industry. Americans aren't fat solely because of car culture.

Even though the question is not directed at me, I'm going to comment on it.
I had the good fortune of being born to a skinny little 5ft 4in auburn haired farm girl who became a nutritionist then got her Masters degree and become a dietitian.

Mom understood the additives thing, and much more. My brother and I grew up eating healthy, along with Dad, whether we wanted to or not. And yes, a moderate amount of sweets and treats were allowed.

Even so,
Mom wound up with I forget which of the 2 types of diabetes around the time she turned 60.
And she's still a skinny little 5ft 4in gal, although that auburn hair long ago went grey.
She turned 85 in June.

 

[andyguitar]

Related: sometimes after rain the air does smell like mold; sometimes it simply smells like dirt and plants after a rain; & other times it smells like a fish tank.
I don't know what makes the difference.

Most probably caused by the different types of soil bacteria that become more active after rain.

 

[andyguitar]

We stayer for 5 days in the secluded mountains. It is warm (30 degrees celcius), dry climate and has low air pollution. Miraculously my allergies dissapeared, even to the dogs that lived there. My ME was somewhat better. How can this be?

My guess would be that something (probably air pollution) is stimulating your immune system which is then over reacting to other potential allergens.

 

[linusbert]

Are you from the US? Europe's food supply is much better than the US. They actually have laws protecting consumers from toxic additives in food unlike the US which only benefits industry. Americans aren't fat solely because of car culture. And no GMOs in the EU unless that has changed. In addition to probably cleaner air and other environmental factors. Much less nuclear testing in Europe as well. Our own government has nuked us in the US for "tests" >1000 times.

i believe this to be still true,
but i feel europe is tryng to catch up with usa.

 

[Viala]

It would be interesting if someone researched such cases by sending a group of ME/CFS folks to these locations and see if that makes a difference statistically. I don't recall they ever tested it and they should because there's more stories like this. Then there's one guy who wrote about CFS, when he went to Incline Village he started to feel bad soon. There's some knowledge in these places waiting to be discovered.

 

[lenora]

My husband was told, and I have also read, that allergies in places can disappear for up to two years, but then return. This was true for my husband (who has/had the worst condition I've ever seen) and was one of the early allergy injection experimenters. He's now 80 yrs. old and since the last round of injections, approximately three years ago, he has remained allergy free since then.

He had several types of injections over the years. I have rather severe allergies now, but this can also happen with age. We both have sinus issues. FYI we live in Dallas, TX. Hope you are well. Yours, Lenore

 

[Artemisia]

It would be interesting if someone researched such cases by sending a group of ME/CFS folks to these locations and see if that makes a difference statistically. I don't recall they ever tested it and they should because there's more stories like this. Then there's one guy who wrote about CFS, when he went to Incline Village he started to feel bad

Through the shadowlands by Julie Reyhmeyer is an excellent book on mold avoidance in me/cfs.

Ive been in Facebook groups devoted to mold avoidance and location effect for several years. And I tried extreme mold avoidance three times. The thing is that some people feel better in certain locations that make other people feel worse. I think the microbiome of the soil has a lot to do with it. And pesticides, pollution, and just general environmental annihilation that has been wrought upon the Earth destroys the soil's biome. The theory is that this destruction of the microbiome of the soil, combined with chemicals dumped into the ecosystem, leads to super toxins to proliferate in the environment and make sensitive people sick.

I felt better camping which the moldavoidance people say is from mold avoidance. But there are too many factors to just say it's mold. It could be emf. Among other things

But in order to camp alone you have to have a certain threshold of physical ability or money to hire helpers. Even people with caretakers, at a certain point the gains you make don't keep up with the exertion toll of camping. I think something like that is what happened with Walker Storz, who had severe ME and pursued mold avoidance camping until he no longer could. He recently died at age 30.

 

[Rufous McKinney]

But in order to camp alone you

in my case, subcutaneous fat deposits no longer exist (except for THE fat deposit called BELLY)

I won' t be lasting 5 minutes sitting in a lame folding camp chair, if I was to be so lucky. I can't even tolerate SHOES. If it's under 70 degrees, I"d be shivering, also. Further ending any enjoyment of Sit Around the Campfire others would be having.

On this 3 day trip I went on sort of recently my feet were battered and bruised having to wear a pair of street shoes, I did not bring my slippers, a total mistake. Normally, I'd only have on real street shoes for maybe an hour.

The room only had wooden chairs.

 

[kangaSue]

Perhaps it's because "the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain".

Sorry for the juvenile mirth, couldn't help myself!

 

[Wendy 0102]

Are you from the US? Europe's food supply is much better than the US. They actually have laws protecting consumers from toxic additives in food unlike the US which only benefits industry. Americans aren't fat solely because of car culture. And no GMOs in the EU unless that has changed. In addition to probably cleaner air and other environmental factors. Much less nuclear testing in Europe as well. Our own government has nuked us in the US for "tests" >1000 times.

No, I am not from the US. And I am pretty sure the food has nothing to do with it.