Good day went down hill quick

I am sick

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Hi All
Thanks for all the get well soon wishes!

So Sunday started out Great!
My Awesome Wife took us out to get a steak and it was Great!
With my alpha gal syndrome I can only eat a fillet and it was cooked just right!

Then after we got home she went to the pool while i chilled on the couch
When she got back we were going to take a nap but first she had to feed a family of ferral cats and some kittens that have called our place home.
While she was doing that a giant limb just sudden fell from a huge tree
And covered up our vehicles, her car was totaled and my jeep had some minor damage, nothing too bad.
Then I saw the limb sticking through the roof, I went inside and the limb around 4" in diameter had stopped about 3" from the bed where one of us would have been napping moments before.

I have been having a headache that started right after I started a new biologic the headache was getting worse by the day and I woke up Monday morning with my head hurting so bad I thought it was going to crack open and then I started to get
paralysis In my left arm and hand by this time we were getting in my jeep to head to Er since it was about 10 min away on the way I started getting
paralysis In my left leg and foot.
At the Er my Bp was 205/110 and they gave me a shot to get it down.
Throught test and a ct and mri
They finally determend I had a mini stroke due to chronic microvascular ischemic disease.
Heck I didnt even know I had that!
I started getting better around midnight and the next day I had normal body function back , only thing I have now is high blood pressure for some reason ?
It is running 170/89 I just started taking a blood pressure med they gave me.
They say the chronic microvascular ischemic disease is causing the high BP.
Neorolgy has called this morning but the soonest they can see me is Sept. 26th but i am on the cancelation list.
The tree that the limb broke off of it takes two people to reach around it .
It was supposed the be cut down yesterday but it wasnt because they had to get a permit for the crane because it is close to a power line , so now its gonna be Friday.
We are staying with our daughter presently
 

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I am sick

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That was what, two or three adrenaline rushes you did not need?
Sorry y'all had to have all these stresses on top of you already being sick.
Thankfully nobody was in the car or on the bed at that moment.
It was close in between my wife had just pulled back in and we were about to nap.
Adrenaline rushes and most of the day in the heat while we waited on the tree surgeons and then getting on the roof to patch the hole in case it rained, I was Whopped !
Thanks
 

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So fortunate you caught this happening early and received help. Were you aware you had the high BP issues or is that new? Grateful these are things that at least these doctor have some options for treating and improving you state of affairs.
At the Er my Bp was 205/110 and they gave me a shot to get it down.


- Very sorry about the tree. I'm a botanist, and I've dealt with "trees" in urban settings, for many years.

The trees have an uncanny ability to "just miss" most humans. They might not miss the parked car.

We cannot live without trees. Therefore, we must find ways to live with them.

Looks like an Alder (if so, they grow rapidly and are know for breakage) ? Or maybe a chestnut? Is Image 3020 the Tree or the branch that broke off?

If that is a major limb, it seems to exhibit "rot" where the smaller limb comes off of it. You said it was hollow, thats possible and hollow trees have Most of their structural integrity intact. They can live for 100s of years, hollow. But the rot affecting the branch is not good. Hollow trees are like straws. Only a few millimeters inside the bark, of these trees, is the living tissue.
 

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So fortunate you caught this happening early and received help. Were you aware you had the high BP issues or is that new? Grateful these are things that at least these doctor have some options for treating and improving you state of affairs.



- Very sorry about the tree. I'm a botanist, and I've dealt with "trees" in urban settings, for many years.

The trees have an uncanny ability to "just miss" most humans. They might not miss the parked car.

We cannot live without trees. Therefore, we must find ways to live with them.

Looks like an Alder (if so, they grow rapidly and are know for breakage) ? Or maybe a chestnut? Is Image 3020 the Tree or the branch that broke off?

If that is a major limb, it seems to exhibit "rot" where the smaller limb comes off of it. You said it was hollow, thats possible and hollow trees have Most of their structural integrity intact. They can live for 100s of years, hollow. But the rot affecting the branch is not good. Hollow trees are like straws. Only a few millimeters inside the bark, of these trees, is the living tissue.
Their were two limbs growing out of the tree in the same spot the one you see on the left barely holding on had the limb that went through the roof.
In pic 3014 is the other limb that bent my bumper a little but totaled the car it was roughly 18".
Not sure of the tree type , I know only Fl. Trees not the northern varietes.
I will get a pic of the seed pods so you can tell me the type.

For the last three years my BP has ranged from 120/65 to 130/70
Unknown why it suddenly changed
They put me on a BP med but it is still
Ranging around 160/85 the med is Losartan 25 mg.
They think it is due to chronic microvascular ischemic disease.
That showed up on the MRI with contrast
They called it a TIA
I know since it has happened my Hot feeling is completely gone and now I feel cold after 3 straight years of burning up!
It could also be the new biologic I started taking last Thursday that cooled me off.
I see a real good Dr in the morning for a post chech up , so maybe he will have some answers.
 

Rufous McKinney

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It looks like an alder in the last shot. They'd have those very tiny little cute cones, which look like miniature pine cones sort of. (like less than one inch across). If so these are not very good for urban settings and yards.

the med is Losartan 25 mg.
They think it is due to chronic microvascular ischemic disease.
I take that dose, but now take it twice a day. (when I first took the Losartan, it caused my gut to shut down really bad, I blamed the potassium...it does'n't keep happening, its an odd one off. Or like I ran out, then started it again, happened again.
 

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It looks like an alder in the last shot. They'd have those very tiny little cute cones, which look like miniature pine cones sort of. (like less than one inch across). If so these are not very good for urban settings and yards.


I take that dose, but now take it twice a day. (when I first took the Losartan, it caused my gut to shut down really bad, I blamed the potassium...it does'n't keep happening, its an odd one off. Or like I ran out, then started it again, happened again.
It is a big beautiful tree and never showed any signs of rot, like the normal staining around limbs.
It has a short hairy outside pod about the size of a Pistachio.
Was supposed to be removed yesterday but now tomorrow was held up due to needing a permit for the crane since it is close to power lines.
Everyone around us had to leave thier homes due to safety since it is so big and tall.
 

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@I am sick - omigosh, that's horrible and so fortunate too that no one was injured. But one car totaled and one car damaged, and a damaged roof - That would do anyone in! But very glad you and your wife weren't hurt!

It seems the tree branch incident could have easily brought your BP up to 205/110 - hmmm - what is the biologic that you've just started and which seemed to be the cause of your severe headache? And severe headaches of course can be stroke symptoms - but maybe your biologic caused the headache. I would look at your biologic, and all the fine print about its "side" (actual) effects. I would not ask your doctor for this info because they are notoriously uninformed as a rule about the effects of drugs they prescribe.

Also, I would want to learn more about your new diagnosis of chronic microvascular ischemic disease. It just sounds a little suspicious to me if your BP suddenly went up to 205/110, after being in the normal range. It seems that this should have happened gradually.

I've read about so many people being misdiagnosed in the ER and just misdiagnosed in general. And doctors as a rule tend to dismiss patient complaints about the side/actual effects of drugs.

I just recently read an article about a man who presented at the ER with severe abdominal pain and couldn't eat - he'd been to the ER 22 times in the past year and no one could help him. He was also a dialysis patient and linked his pain to the dialysis. One possibility that was explored was "chronic mesenteric eschemia" where "inadequate oxygen delivery to the GIT tract triggers pain that worsens with eating." In the end, the man was extremely fortunate in that the doctors discovered that his symptoms were caused by thiamine deficiency (!), or beri-beri. The dialysis was flushing thiamine out of his system. They started giving him thiamine and the pain disappeared and he was able to eat again. But it shouldn't have taken 22 trips to the ER to figure this out.

Good luck with everything!
 

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@I am sick - omigosh, that's horrible and so fortunate too that no one was injured. But one car totaled and one car damaged, and a damaged roof - That would do anyone in! But very glad you and your wife weren't hurt!

It seems the tree branch incident could have easily brought your BP up to 205/110 - hmmm - what is the biologic that you've just started and which seemed to be the cause of your severe headache? And severe headaches of course can be stroke symptoms - but maybe your biologic caused the headache. I would look at your biologic, and all the fine print about its "side" (actual) effects. I would not ask your doctor for this info because they are notoriously uninformed as a rule about the effects of drugs they prescribe.

Also, I would want to learn more about your new diagnosis of chronic microvascular ischemic disease. It just sounds a little suspicious to me if your BP suddenly went up to 205/110, after being in the normal range. It seems that this should have happened gradually.

I've read about so many people being misdiagnosed in the ER and just misdiagnosed in general. And doctors as a rule tend to dismiss patient complaints about the side/actual effects of drugs.

I just recently read an article about a man who presented at the ER with severe abdominal pain and couldn't eat - he'd been to the ER 22 times in the past year and no one could help him. He was also a dialysis patient and linked his pain to the dialysis. One possibility that was explored was "chronic mesenteric eschemia" where "inadequate oxygen delivery to the GIT tract triggers pain that worsens with eating." In the end, the man was extremely fortunate in that the doctors discovered that his symptoms were caused by thiamine deficiency (!), or beri-beri. The dialysis was flushing thiamine out of his system. They started giving him thiamine and the pain disappeared and he was able to eat again. But it shouldn't have taken 22 trips to the ER to figure this out.

Good luck with everything!
With chronic microvascular ischemic disease.
You can have a blood clot and it can dissolve and disappear apparently?
They called it a TIA stroke.
Even on BP medicine it is still running in the high 150's/80
The biologic was bimzelx it can cause headaches, but by my research it did not have any interactions with any of my meds.
The other biologics i have tried some caused extreme heart palpations so I quit them.
They called my Dr and he said he did not think it was the Bimzelx but they had a call to the company that makes it to see if any in the trial study had what I had.
I had a test a few weeks ago to see if I had a chance to develope blood clots
And it was negative, but with cfs I dont get any excersice so it could be possible.
My Father had several strokes but he also had conjestive heart failure and was on blood thinners.
Hopefuly tomorrow a Dr will tell me what he thinks! He is pretty sharp.
For now i may just need a different dose of BP meds till it gets sorted out
 

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here is the tree

I think it's a beech. I've never lived near those. Much larger than "alder". :whistle: :whistle: No big deal, plummeting into your bedroom. :D

I am really happy your both OK and were protected.

The tree has growth form issues which have contributed to the rot and breakage you unfortunately experienced. I'd like to stare at this some more tomorrow. I'm in sort of a worse than normal coma today.
 

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Hi @I am sick

You sound like you are handling all this remarkably well.

I’m so happy to hear that you seem to be recovering very well from your stroke.

Please let us know how your future neurology appointment goes. My hope is that the cause of your stroke can be treated and managed going forward. We don’t want you to have another one!
 

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I think it's a beech. I've never lived near those. Much larger than "alder". :whistle: :whistle: No big deal, plummeting into your bedroom. :D

I am really happy your both OK and were protected.

The tree has growth form issues which have contributed to the rot and breakage you unfortunately experienced. I'd like to stare at this some more tomorrow. I'm in sort of a worse than normal coma today.
I under stand!
Hope you feel better Soon.
I can look it up since you gave me a few names.
A lot of soft wood trees have that internal rot , that I seen.
All I know is White and Red oaks and pine trees and Catalpa trees and cedar trees and the likes in Fl.
Never even looked up any Northern trees.
 

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Hi @I am sick

You sound like you are handling all this remarkably well.

I’m so happy to hear that you seem to be recovering very well from your stroke.

Please let us know how your future neurology appointment goes. My hope is that the cause of your stroke can be treated and managed going forward. We don’t want you to have another one!
Thank You
I will update tomorrows visit and rest of them in the future
Thanks for every thing!
 

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I think it's a beech. I've never lived near those. Much larger than "alder". :whistle: :whistle: No big deal, plummeting into your bedroom. :D

I am really happy your both OK and were protected.

The tree has growth form issues which have contributed to the rot and breakage you unfortunately experienced. I'd like to stare at this some more tomorrow. I'm in sort of a worse than normal coma today.
Hi looking at the seed pods it is a beech.
The alder has baby looking pinecones
Seed pods
Thank you
 

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Hi @I am sick

You sound like you are handling all this remarkably well.

I’m so happy to hear that you seem to be recovering very well from your stroke.

Please let us know how your future neurology appointment goes. My hope is that the cause of your stroke can be treated and managed going forward. We don’t want you to have another one!
Hi
Yes I dont get excited about things!
To me it is a waste of Time to over react!
It is just a Life Experience to me.
Thanks
 

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Thank God 🙏 your paralysis resolved the next day. this is horrific.
By chance, get a blood test for Homocystein. if its high you should treat it with methylation vitamins. (b12, folat, b6 - methylated forms). and if its normal high i would suggest the same.
And D-Dimere is a blood test which shows overall clotting/declotting activity in your body. if its high, you have clots/clots resolving.
nattokinase or lumbrokinase can help for those kind of things because they resolve the clots, BUT this must be very carefully spoken with your medical staff. those have a chance to increase bleeding tendency and after a stroke that can be good or veeery bad depending the cause.
also nattokinase/lumbrokinase shouldnt be mixed with other blood thinners like Aspirin or similiar medications. Lumbrokinase seams to have higher potency for this.
 
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Thank God 🙏 your paralysis resolved the next day. this is horrific.
By chance, get a blood test for Homocystein. if its high you should treat it with methylation vitamins. (b12, folat, b6 - methylated forms). and if its normal high i would suggest the same.
And D-Dimere is a blood test which shows overall clotting/declotting activity in your body. if its high, you have clots/clots resolving.
nattokinase or lumbrokinase can help for those kind of things because they resolve the clots, BUT this must be very carefully spoken with your medical staff. those have a chance to increase bleeding tendency and after a stroke that can be good or veeery bad depending the cause.
also nattokinase/lumbrokinase shouldnt be mixed with other blood thinners like Aspirin or similiar medications. Lumbrokinase seams to have higher potency for this.
Hi and Thank You!
I have had the test

Homocysteine​

Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years

Normal range: below <15.0 umol/L
Value
9.9



Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years
D-Dimer
Normal range: 190.00 - 500.00 NG/ML FEU
Value
<190.00Low

Blood pressure is still running high on losartan for me , but I see a Great Dr in a few hours!

When I woke up with the bad headache and started getting weak on my left side I took 2 asprins before heading to the Er they told me that was the best thing I could have done
After they gave me shot to get my BP
Down I started feeling better in about 8 hours .
They say it was a TIA stroke and looking that up said condition last 5 minutes up to 24 hours.
I am very Thankful to have recovered !
Thanks for careing!
 

I am sick

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Hi and Thank You!
I have had the test

Homocysteine​

Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years

Normal range: below <15.0 umol/L
Value
9.9



Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years
D-Dimer
Normal range: 190.00 - 500.00 NG/ML FEU
Value
<190.00Low

Blood pressure is still running high on losartan for me , but I see a Great Dr in a few hours!

When I woke up with the bad headache and started getting weak on my left side I took 2 asprins before heading to the Er they told me that was the best thing I could have done
After they gave me shot to get my BP
Down I started feeling better in about 8 hours .
They say it was a TIA stroke and looking that up said condition last 5 minutes up to 24 hours.
I am very Thankful to have recovered !
Thanks for careing!
Just saw a Great Dr for my post stroke assessment , he has not posted his notes yet.
I cant remember everything we talked about.
I had to do some more blood work and a 24 hr urine test to check my adrenal glands.
 

linusbert

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Hi and Thank You!
I have had the test

Homocysteine​

Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years

Normal range: below <15.0 umol/L
Value
9.9



Tested about 2 weeks ago and multiple times over the years
D-Dimer
Normal range: 190.00 - 500.00 NG/ML FEU
Value
<190.00Low

Blood pressure is still running high on losartan for me , but I see a Great Dr in a few hours!

When I woke up with the bad headache and started getting weak on my left side I took 2 asprins before heading to the Er they told me that was the best thing I could have done
After they gave me shot to get my BP
Down I started feeling better in about 8 hours .
They say it was a TIA stroke and looking that up said condition last 5 minutes up to 24 hours.
I am very Thankful to have recovered !
Thanks for careing!
those values look fine.
i did go into research a little bit and some despute the common thresholds and say they are too high.
so 10 could already be too much according to new ressources.
i know nothing about homocystein except that it shouldnt be too high. what "too high" means is debatable but there are voices saying 10 is too high, and a few even say it should be within 5-7.

https://www.optimaldx.com/blog/homocysteine-optimal-range

this is what brave ai said:
Optimal homocysteine levels are a subject of ongoing discussion, with varying recommendations depending on the medical approach. In functional medicine, the optimal range is generally considered to be below 8 μmol/L, with an ideal target of 5-7 μmol/L. Other sources suggest an optimal range of 7-9 μmol/L , or less than 10 μmol/L. Some experts argue that levels above 5 μmol/L already increase the risk of death and cardiovascular events, indicating that optimal values may be lower than commonly accepted thresholds. While most laboratories consider levels above 15 μmol/L to be elevated , many health professionals now view levels above 10 μmol/L as potentially concerning and warranting intervention.

so according to some voices your levels of 9.9 could be a problem. but who knows who is right.
but methylation therapy is cheap and if its tolerable maybe worth to consider. of course in your situation do nothing without the docs ok.
 
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