CDC orders mass retraction and revision of submitted research

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The Trump administration seeks to scrub research papers of forbidden terms and, I presume, to confine research to "proper" lines of inquiry.

My source of information about this is Inside Medicine: https://insidemedicine.substack.com...tack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=email

From the report:

"How many manuscripts are affected is unclear, but it could be many. Most manuscripts include simple demographic information about the populations or patients studied, which typically includes gender (and which is frequently used interchangeably with sex). That means just about any major study would fall under the censorship regime of the new policy, including studies on Covid-19, cancer, heart disease, or anything else, let alone anything that the administration considers to be “woke ideology.”

"Meanwhile, chaos and fear are already guiding decisions. While the policy is only meant to apply to work that might be seen as conflicting with President Trump’s executive orders, CDC experts don’t know how to interpret that. Do papers that describe disparities in health outcomes fall into “woke ideology” or not? Nobody knows, and everyone is scared that they’ll be fired. This is leading to what Germans call “vorauseilender Gehorsam,” or “preemptive obedience,” as one non-CDC scientist commented."

I heard yesterday that CDC pages on women's health, adolescent health, HIV, and other topics have disappeared from the CDC website. I don't remember where I heard or read this. Perhaps a forum member can confirm.
 
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Looks like at least some of this is correct: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...g-websites-remove-gender-ideology-2025-01-31/ Maybe not women's health pages in their entirety, but it is crystal clear that nothing is clear with this flurry of orders
CDC experts don’t know how to interpret that.

and things seem to change daily. It surely would not be a surprise if information about women's health meets the same fate as information about LGBT health and high risk youth health issues. Research that focuses on illness and disease that disproportionately affect women ..... what is your guess?
 

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Its a giant mess this is going to be very bad for science generally, a giant book burning is never good. So much research is going to get deleted simply because it used the word equity even though it had nothing to do with what they are currently purging and will impact on our ME world.
 

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"How many manuscripts are affected is unclear, but it could be many
Looks like it applies to research that has yet to be published.
I heard yesterday that CDC pages on women's health, adolescent health, HIV, and other topics have disappeared from the CDC website. I don't remember where I heard or read this. Perhaps a forum member can confirm.
CDC website still has content on those subjects.
and will impact on our ME world.
It might impact on research conducted by scientists from countries outside the US who would colaborate with US researchers. That could come to an end.
 

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I heard yesterday that CDC pages on women's health, adolescent health, HIV, and other topics have disappeared from the CDC website. I don't remember where I heard or read this. Perhaps a forum member can confirm.
First, be very cautions about going merely by what people say.
Second, this internet has multiple search engines,
so,
pull up your favorite and go look and confirm for yourself, using search terms like cdc hiv, cdc women health, cdc teen health,

There will be several types of results, active pages, pages not found, pages from past years such as 2015 which are now archived and not updated.

This HIV page is still there as of right now,
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/about/index.html

A number of women's health pages are there, such as,
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductive-health/women-health/common-concerns.html

And this women's health features page has working links to women's health articles,
https://www.cdc.gov/womens-health/features/index.html

Here's an example of a 2015 page which is now archived,
Vital Signs: Preventing Teen Pregnancy
A Key Role for Health Care Providers
Updated Apr. 7, 2015
https://archive.cdc.gov/#/details?q...ttps://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/larc/index.html

This overview page on teen pregnancy is active,
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductive-health/teen-pregnancy/index.html

speaking of teen health, this link to an STI page from a teen health page is still active,
https://www.cdc.gov/sti/
A random trial of a few links within it show they remain active.

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Pages do have a yellow block at top with notice about CDC website modifications,
for instance
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I apologize for setting forum members at the task of checking CDC pages. I hate to think how much energy some of you expended to search and post. Thank you for your efforts. Please rest! At this time of political upheaval, I think now, we can't be sure that any federal website will remain the same from one day to the next.
 

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A lot of people are archiving the information and have been so at least whatever happens nothing is entirely lost. You can probably go to that datahoarders sub to see what is going on there.

Either way the EOs are a huge mess and I dont know what can be done or how things will roll out since not everyone will stand for it because of how absurd book burning tactics are when everything is stored as data on a bunch of scattered systems. You can't burn the internet and ban the existence of certain people of a gender. These simple truths clashing with the absurdity of this all are going to have us in for a wild ride. On the transgender front there is a lot of identity and surgery/treatment chaos going on that is better or worse depending on where you live. On the ground as one you'd think recent days were like any other up here. A lot of the real damage of the EO's is people in control of data and the lives of others complying in advance.
 
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Major news organizations are reporting that a judge has ordered the Trump administration to restore CDC webpages. This from the AP (Associated Press) story:

"A federal judge on Tuesday ordered government agencies to restore public access to health-related webpages and datasets that they removed to comply with an executive order by President Donald Trump.

U.S. District Judge John Bates in Washington agreed to issue a temporary restraining order requested by the Doctors for America advocacy group. The judge instructed the government to restore access to several webpages and datasets that the group identified as missing from websites and to identify others that also were taken down 'without adequate notice or reasoned explanation.' "
 
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