• Welcome to Phoenix Rising!

    Created in 2008, Phoenix Rising is the largest and oldest forum dedicated to furthering the understanding of, and finding treatments for, complex chronic illnesses such as chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), fibromyalgia, long COVID, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS), mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), and allied diseases.

    To become a member, simply click the Register button at the top right.

View of NICE by its former chairman

MeSci

ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6?
Messages
8,231
Location
Cornwall, UK
The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) was established in 1999, primarily to offer professionals in Britain's National Health Service (NHS) advice on providing care that meets the highest attainable standards. NICE's role was expanded in 2005 to include provision of analogous advice to the broader public health community on preventing ill health and maintaining good health. (The name was changed to the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, but the acronym NICE has continued to be used.)

To meet these objectives, NICE now has three different strands of responsibilities (see table1) and its budget from the government has increased tenfold. Much attention, however, continues to focus on NICE's technology appraisals and clinical-guideline programs.

Since 2000, the Institute has been publishing technology appraisals — assessments of the clinical effectiveness and cost-effectiveness of (mainly) new pharmaceutical products, including whether providing them constitutes a good use of NHS resources. Contrary to popular mythology, NICE rejects less than 15% of technologies on the grounds of cost-ineffectiveness. In recent years, manufacturers have increasingly been offering the NHS, through NICE, “patient access schemes,” which can substantially reduce the price of products and render them more likely to be considered cost-effective. Such offers have sometimes led a product with a negative provisional assessment to gain a positive final one, and occasionally decisions have been reversed because manufacturers have submitted additional evidence about a product's clinical effectiveness.

NICE's clinical guidelines improve the quality of care provided to NHS patients. For example, after the publication of a guideline on the prophylactic use of antibiotics in patients with mechanical cardiac lesions, the volume of prescriptions by dental surgeons fell by more than 80% in 6 months.2 Similarly, as a result of a guideline on preventing venous thromboembolism, the rate of risk assessments in patients admitted to NHS hospitals increased from less than 40% in 2010 to 94% in 2012.3 Not all NICE's clinical guidelines have had such an effect: the Institute's guidance on managing infertility, including the use of in vitro fertilization, was fully adopted by only about 25% of primary care trusts (the regional administrative bodies that, until recently, commissioned and provided health care services to NHS patients).

NICE distinguishes clinical guidelines defining optimal care pathways for specific conditions from standards describing generic competencies for health care professionals. Professional standards may cover anything from treating patients with dignity and respect, to ways of avoiding bedsores, to the procedure for safely inserting a nasogastric tube. These standards are generally agreed to be the responsibility of the medical and nursing regulatory authorities, the royal colleges and professional societies. The recent scandal at Mid-Staffordshire Hospitals — where investigators found what were widely described as “appalling” conditions and care — was primarily attributable to failures in adhering to professional standards.4

I believe that NICE has largely succeeded in its mission, thanks to four key ingredients. The first has been the political and fiscal environment. There is now wide acceptance that no country seeking to provide universal health care has the resources necessary to achieve the highest possible standards of care for everyone. In 1999, when NICE was established, there was limited, tacit acceptance of this gloomy fact. Fourteen years later, there is greater honesty among politicians and health policymakers, owing in part to the global financial crisis. Priorities must be set on the basis of evidence of both clinical effectiveness and cost-effectiveness.

However, priority setting in health care must encompass more than the technical and scientific demands of health technology assessment. It must also take account of the social values of the relevant communities. NICE therefore established a Citizens Council, with members drawn from the general public, to examine, deliberate over, and report on the social principles on which the Institute's guidance should be based.5 Health care systems elsewhere need to develop their own approaches to eliciting social values, which won't necessarily reflect the culture and preferences of the British public.

Second, NICE has adopted a methodologically rigorous approach to guidance development. All NICE guidance is based on a full systematic review of the available evidence, including not only the results of randomized, controlled trials, but also observational and analytic studies. Information on the Institute's processes and methods is publicly available, and these processes undergo revisions every 3 years.The World Health Organization has reviewed them twice and found, overall, that NICE guidance is developed to the highest standards.

The third factor is inclusivity. The Institute has strived to involve its stakeholders — health care professionals, patients and their representative organizations, and relevant life-sciences companies — in all its programs. All stakeholders are invited to contribute to revisions of our processes and methods and encouraged to submit evidence on particular topics for consideration by the Institute's advisory bodies.

All NICE's clinical-guideline groups include at least two patients (or “service users”), except in the case of guidelines for children's illnesses, in which we include the parents of children with the condition in question. Because meeting with distinguished clinicians can be daunting, NICE provides participating service users with specific training for their role.

The Institute's stakeholders have been generally (though not uncritically) supportive. Despite a rocky beginning with the life-sciences industry and particularly the pharmaceutical industry, relations improved as it became clear that we supported the use of most new drugs but that health care systems globally can afford only cost-effective products.

Fourth, NICE has, from the outset, jealously guarded its independence from vested interests, whether government, the professions, patient organizations, or the life-sciences industries. Government ministers formally refer specific appraisal, clinical-guideline, and public health topics to the Institute for development. At first, Department of Health officials selected topics for approval by government ministers, but now NICE proposes topics for referral by ministers, and then guidance content becomes entirely the responsibility of the Institute and the relevant advisory body. Ministers do not attempt to influence NICE guidance and have never threatened to overturn any of NICE's advice.

All NICE guidance is developed by independent members of advisory bodies, who are drawn from the NHS and British universities. The Institute's board can suppress a piece of guidance that it believes to be flawed, but it has never had to exercise this option. From the outset, the Institute has had strict conflict-of-interest rules covering both its staff and advisory-body members.

NICE is now a permanent component of the British health care environment, having been reestablished on April 1, 2013, in legislation that also requires the Institute to develop guidelines and performance metrics for social services. This change, I hope, will help improve the integration of Britain's health care and social services, whose interactions have too often been dysfunctional. (With this addition to its remit, the Institute's name has been changed again, to the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence.)

NICE's experience may carry lessons for the United States, which has an abundance of the technical, scientific, and clinical skills needed to develop robust guidance for clinical practice — but which appears, at least to an outsider, to lack the political will to ensure the provision of universal health care and to accept that in so doing it will have to set priorities. The Affordable Care Act takes a modest step in this direction, but the current level of expenditure on health care in the United States is unsustainable. If the United States is to meet the needs of all its citizens, especially in the face of an increasingly elderly population, it will someday have to take both clinical effectiveness and cost-effectiveness into account in determining the contents of its package of universal health care. Our experience in the United Kingdom shows that, though sometimes uncomfortable, it is possible.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1303907?query=TOC

This bit is particularly interesting:

"...NICE has adopted a methodologically rigorous approach to guidance development. All NICE guidance is based on a full systematic review of the available evidence, including not only the results of randomized, controlled trials, but also observational and analytic studies."

The NICE Guideline for CFS/ME states:

"Cognitive behavioural therapy and/or graded exercise therapy should be offered to people with mild or moderate CFS/ME and provided to those who choose these approaches, because currently these are the interventions for which there is the clearest research evidence of benefit."

http://publications.nice.org.uk/chr...opathy-cg53/key-priorities-for-implementation

There would appear to be something amiss with the claimed "methodologically rigorous approach to guidance development..." :rolleyes:
 

peggy-sue

Senior Member
Messages
2,623
Location
Scotland
Something amiss here too:

"Fourth, NICE has, from the outset, jealously guarded its independence from vested interests, whether government, the professions, patient organizations, or the life-sciences industries."
 

jimells

Senior Member
Messages
2,009
Location
northern Maine
The essay reads like it was written by a "public relations" hack, otherwise known as "propaganda".

If the United States is to meet the needs of all its citizens, especially in the face of an increasingly elderly population, it will someday have to take both clinical effectiveness and cost-effectiveness into account in determining the contents of its package of universal health care.

There is no "package of universal health care" in the U.S. One could make the claim that there is a "package of universal health Insurance". But insurance has little to do with access to competent care, which requires, above all else, competent doctors. There seems to be a severe shortage of that particular "commodity"!

Even folks with "regular" illnesses such as high blood pressure and diabetes can't get competent care if they are poor. My sister in New York State has a masters in education but hasn't worked in her field for years. Currently she more or less survives on part-time work at Sams Club handing out food samples. She has no money, health insurance, or a primary care provider, but lots of student loans she can never discharge or pay off.

During a trip to the Emergency Room, she received a month's supply of BP pills and instructions to find a primary care provider. At the end of the month she went to an "urgent care" clinic where they charged her $100 to renew her prescription - for one month. A month later she returned to the same clinic. Once again she was forced to cough up $100 for another one month prescription. She was also told they would not provide continuing care for her illness.

Under the terms of the new health care law she should qualify for Medicaid, which is insurance paid by the government. But nobody seems to be able to figure out how to get her signed up.

The author of the journal essay seems to be ignorant of the fact that the U.S. has already set its priorities: unlimited profits for the medical and insurance industries, poverty and sickness for nearly everyone else.
 

peggy-sue

Senior Member
Messages
2,623
Location
Scotland
"unlimited profits for the medical and insurance industries, poverty and sickness for nearly everyone else"

Unfortunately, the whole world is following that very bad example.

For "freedom and liberty" to mean anything - everybody needs their health and an education as a basic human right.,
(not that I'm sure what is meant by "liberty and freedom" in the first place. I'm very dubious about certain interpretations.)