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"Once Again, Lancet Stumbles on PACE" (Aug 29) by Vincent Racaniello

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Dolphin, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. Dolphin

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    Hum? So the way The Lancet deals with a controversy is to ask one of the parties to assess the quality of the paper that criticizes them.
     
  4. AndyPR

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    If we had any doubt of how far in bed with the PACE authors the Lancet is this gives us the answer - they are right in the middle, snuggled up tight to each other! :mad:

    Direct link to the letter in the comments section on the trial itself - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21334061#cm21334061_26677

    Thanks once again to all who have put their names to this letter.
     
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  6. Mrs Sowester

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    It's been kicked out to the long grass.
    It's not a stumble it's deliberate procrastination.
     
  7. A.B.

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    Unbelievable. It's no longer surprising they managed to publish PACE.

    Edit:

    http://www.virology.ws/2015/10/23/trial-by-error-iii/
     
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  8. A.B.

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    We know that PACE authors have conflicts of interest involving the health insurance company. I am wondering, does The Lancet have any conflicts of interest in this story?
     
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    Genuinely ugly behaviour. What is clear from both this and the ICO and tribunal decisions is that, when we have credible support on board, the whole strategy crumbles and they just start going weird. One wonders quite how far someone like Horton (heavily entitled, slightly deranged) will go before his colleagues start looking at him funny.
     
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    Horton has staked his own reputation heavily on PACE and strongly attacked the patient community. He's personally up to his neck in all this.
     
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    Deja vu???

    https://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2...cet-reviewed-the-1998-wakefield-lancet-paper/

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/feb/02/lancet-retracts-mmr-paper

    http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/12/smoke-and-mirrors-dr-richard-horton-and-the-wakefield-affair.html

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blo...ichard-Horton-Still-The-Editor-Of--The-Lancet

    https://forbetterscience.wordpress.com/2016/04/05/does-the-lancet-care-about-patients/

     
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    Apparently Horton's first act after the Sunday Times made him aware of the serious problems with Andrew Wakefield's autism paper was to contact Wakefield and try to find a way to kill the Times' story. You can read an account here:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7001

    Horton also wrote two editorials (in September 2015 and February 2016) defending Paolo Macchiarini of the Karolinska Institute against allegations of misconduct, including falsifying the research reported in his four Lancet papers. Horton's robust defence seems a tad premature, given that the Karolinska Institute fired Macchiarini for scientific negligence and lying on his CV just a month after Horton's second editorial was published.

    According to the second editorial, Horton's response to the public calls for Macchiarini's papers to be withdrawn was to contact Macchiarini to 'seek his views'. It seems this is standard operating procedure at the Lancet under Horton's leadership.
     
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    No idea what this could be about...

     
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    AndyPandy Making the most of it

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    Hooray for Vincent Racaniello and all the signatories of the letter for persisting in getting the word out about all the shenanigans.
     
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    I think he just means what he said. i.e. if his theory ever gets debunked, disproven, old, worn and tattered, then someone please give him a wake-up call.
     
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    I know what it means. :) He's sending a message to someone.
     
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    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    We don't have to wonder, we are going to get to watch it all, because the circle of critics is getting wider and wider, and none of them are going away until this is sorted.
     
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