Phoenix Rising tells QMUL: release the PACE trial data
Mark Berry, Acting CEO of Phoenix Rising, presents the Board of Directors’ open letter to Queen Mary University of London (QMUL) urging them to release the PACE trial data, and hopes that other non-UK organisations will join British charities in the same request...
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  1. tinacarroll27

    tinacarroll27 Senior Member

    Hi all!!!! I have been trying to do some cleaning lately and I can't afford a cleaner at the moment. I was only going to do a bit at a time and pace myself but as usual I ended up trying to do it all in one day as everything is such a mess! I spent yesterday cleaning and I thought I was getting away with it until about 2 hours later when I felt terrible. I was so stiff and my muscle hurt that bad I couldn't get up. I was crawling around on the floor and I had to lay still or I felt something bad was going to happen. The pain was getting worse and worse. Today I feel like I have been hit by a car and my glands in my neck are swollen and I still can't move out off bed. Is this PEM? As these symptoms came on within a few hours after pushing myself too hard and I though PEM only hit you 24 hours later?
  2. Denise

    Denise Senior Member

    @tinacarroll27 - onset of PEM can vary quite a bit. Sometimes it is immediate and sometimes it is delayed by up to 72 hours. Added to this wide variation is that even in the same patient, sometimes the onset of PEM is immediate and sometimes delayed and PEM symptoms can vary within the same patient also.

    It sounds as though your symptoms might be PEM (or the onset of an illness).
    If possible note your symptoms, and severity and duration also.
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  3. lnester7

    lnester7 Seven

    Yes, PEM can hit immediately or hours later or days later. Usually for me when it is hours mean that I over did ROYALLY as opposed to just a little bit.
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  4. Joh

    Joh Inactivist

    Hi Tina,

    Sounds like classic PEM to me. :(

    This is from the Canadian Consensus Criteria:
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