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Hale clinic. London

gregh286

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Hi its katrin from londonnaturaltherapies.co.uk
Blood is quite acidic. Clumping cells quite common in acidic blood.
Also my uric.acid levels high at 7.5nmol. Taking allopurinol for that. Probably not helping either.
Hale has been and still is a good experience.
It has improved overall health immensely.
She still sees immune dysfuction on lympocytes....still working on that.
Currently we are addressing improving cell functionality in lympocytes and keeping blood alkaline.
Takes time as we all know b cells are memory cells and takes months to restore vitality to them.
AHCC herb used for nk cell improvement.
She is using a spleen and marrow rNA injection for genetic blueprint to restore immune cell functionality.
Many alkaline potions.....both IV and orally.
Is it going well...yes very.
Would i recommend her?? Totally yes if you have the deep pockets for it.
Cost wise you would need to allow for maybe 12 treatments at 1k-1.2k a time. So £15k or so. But without health money is valueless anyway. Would have sold my soul to santa. (Dyslexia humour...no offence intended)
Will see the treatment out till year end.
I go fortnightly now.
She uses dark field microscopy for images. Just emails the pics.
 
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gregh286

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Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
Have to remember cfs is such a full circle disease that affect so many organs and functions with many knock on effects.
Initially there maybe bacterial or viral insult.....this can become deep rooted or chronic...like candida eg..this stresses our system and increases cortisol output. So your adrenal glands get under pressure...leading to adrenal fatigue and preg.steal. so hormones get badly affected..we lose lobido...cold feet...hormonal dysfunction.

This is very good article on the connection of adrenal dysfunction and how our cells wont uptake glucose.
http://drhedberg.com/the-thyroid-adrenal-pancreas-axis/

Standard medical practice keep taking bloods from us and find nothing. We are not nutrionally deficient.....its a power issue....cells.not taking up glucose....switch to anaerobic mode and then the lactic.cycle begins. More kidney and liver pressure to clear the lactate.

Lower bacterial load>>>>support adrenals>>>focus on alkaline>>>>restore immune function..
 
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I was at the Hale clinic circa 1997.
I had totally forgotten about their bioresonance machine in the Hale clinic. They did that on me too when I was there. It did not work. I even tried it with another practioner years later, somewhere else, and it did nothing.

I have had another think about your visit to the Hale clinic.
To be honest, I don't think you should continue with anything with them except for the vitamin IVs, and herbs. Please don't be angry with me for saying this so late. I might be wrong of course.

I think the money is better spent going to a CFS specialist doctor like Dr Meirleir, OR visiting the odd kind small doctor with an interest in ME, ...OR even just fishing around on my own through the net, which is how I discovered the combination of Align probiotic, high dose flax seed oil, and raw camel milk. That combination helped me more than the Hale clinic. Like I said before, the only good thing I got out of them circa 1997 was vitamin IVs.
Everything else there was a waste of time and money in my case.

I'm a bit brainfogged tonight so please excuse the fact that I could not read the previous posts properly. I hope I haven't given you too much of a downer.
 
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gregh286

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Hi.
Its almost 20 years since you were there. Medicine has moved on greatly.
They have improved me greatly.
I was a patient of demeirler in the past.
He basically hands out antibiotics.for 3 months.
As for armin labs and their positive lyme test in almost everyone thats tested...dubious to say the least.
 

digital dog

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Did you start the paleo diet at the same time as this treatment? If so, how do you know it is not the diet helping you?

Not trying to be negative, just it is the first thing that caught my attention.

So very glad you are seeing results...hip, hip hooray!!!
 

gregh286

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Location
Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
Hi dd
I was only on paleo a while.
I eat carbs again moderately.
Paleo is double edged sword. One hand keeps inflammatory response low as.blood sugar stays constant.
In the blue corner....if you have raised cortisol like me maintaining decent blood sugar levels is better. Paleo keeps cortisol raised burning out adrenals even more. Then a landslide of hormonal probs that follow with preg.steal.
If you have low cortisol then i think paleo would suit better.
Diet can only take cfs so far.
 
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Seeing the person in the link...Katrin Hempel.
Brings a lot of CFS technique from Germany with her.

Hi Greg,
It sounds like you has success with both Katrin at London Natural Therapies and the Hale Clinic?
Is there any chance you would be willing to speak to me please? I am looking for a suite of therapies like the ones that they offer, in particular IV Ozone and IV Vitamin C, and others, together with FIR to sweat it out. I have been inspired by people who have had success at Deeper Healing in Charleston, US but travel is impossible at the moment and I’m in the U.K.
I only have the money once so I’m trying to get as much info before I invest and speaking to someone who has had results is SO helpful.
All the best, Kate