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The study appears to have been beefed up a bit because of interest from outside the US. He mentioned that several problems had occurred which require them to engage in pilot studies. Interestingly, he stated that the time between collection and preparation is important.
We talked about the negative studies; her impression of Dr. McClure was that she was had been handed a bunch of samples to test for a retroviruses and so she tested them. (Unfortunately she later inserted herself into the public debate about the disease). Kuppeveld and McClure in the UK werent necessarily bad; they were however, committed to a particular interpretation of chronic fatigue syndrome and when the first bit of evidence validated that they grabbed it and ran. She said the type of testing they did was sufficient to find a retroviruses like HIV; it was not, however, sufficient to find a retrovirus like XMRV.
Cort said:Interestingly, he stated that the time between collection and preparation is important.
"she (Dr Unger) agreed that it was a decidedly bad thing for the research community to split apart on how to define ME/CFS" .........
Ya think! I wonder if she has a clue how that came about. But then, is a fish aware it's in water?
She is in the CDC water....we'll see how things go. Of course Suzanne Vernon took a sharp right (or maybe left) after she left the CDC. Elizabeth Unger seems likely to rock the boat but who knows....
Yes, it takes a very perceptive fish to know it's wet!
.Elizabeth Unger seems less likely to rock the boat but who knows....
Kuppeveld and McClure in the UK werent necessarily bad; they were however, committed to a particular interpretation of chronic fatigue syndrome and when the first bit of evidence validated that they grabbed it and ran. She said the type of testing they did was sufficient to find a retroviruses like HIV; it was not, however, sufficient to find a retrovirus like XMRV. It was a case of using traditional techniques to search for an unusual virus.
This still doesn't establish the existence of a conspiracy, or show those involved to be imbeciles. It merely highlights the problem of group think, which reduces apparent intelligence to the lowest common denominator of the group. Individuals involved may yet be salvaged.