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List of Biochemical Causes for Irritability

Discussion in 'Cognition' started by Hip, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    Irritability (a low threshold for annoyance) is a common symptom in many ME/CFS patients. I have been collecting information on possible biochemical causes of irritability.

    Here is my list of biochemical causes for irritability as it stands so far:

    Acidosis.
    Systemic acidosis is when the body is too acidic.
    Possible treatment: an alkalizing diet; a half teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate daily, taken away from meals.

    Lactate build-up in muscles.
    Possible treatment: as above: an alkalizing diet; a half teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate daily, taken away from meals.

    High TNF-alpha
    Possible treatment: supplements that lower TNF-alpha include: cat's claw (potent), vinpocetine (potent), taurine (potent), evening primrose oil, ginger, chondroitin sulfate, magnesium, fish oil, and many others.

    High IL-10.
    Possible treatment: none found.

    Low serotonin due to the Interferon-induced breakdown of tryptophan.
    Low serotonin can cause depression or irritability. Tryptophan is needed to make serotonin. Tryptophan is broken down by the enzyme IDO (indoleamine-2-3-dioxygenase). Interferon stimulates the activity of the IDO enzyme, causing increased tryptophan breakdown. Hence interferon can cause depression or irritability. Since interferon gamma is generated when the immune system is in Th1 mode, the use of Th1 boosting supplements may also cause increased tryptophan breakdown, leading to depression or irritability.
    Possible treatment: Stop taking supplements that boost the Th1 mode, such as Astragalus, inosine, beta sitosterol, and transfer factor. Aspirin, propolis, resveratrol and lemon balm reduce tryptophan breakdown, so may increase serotonin and thus reduce irritability. Serotonin boosters like high dose inositol (15 grams daily) or saffron may help.

    Hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid).
    Possible treatment: antithyroid medicines are used for mild hyperthyroidism.

    Low iodine.
    Iodine deficiency can cause irritability symptoms. Ref: 1.
    Possible treatment: kelp or some other iodine-containing supplement.

    High prolactin.
    Possible treatment: pantethine can reduce prolactin, as can chasteberry (agnus castus) herb, and zinc with vitamin B6.

    Low testosterone.
    In men, low testosterone may cause irritability. Ref: 1.
    Possible treatment: tribulus terrestris herb will boost testosterone production; nettle leaf herb will increase the amount of free testosterone (the active form of testosterone).

    High DHT (dihydrotestosterone).
    High DHT can also cause a loss of hair.
    Possible treatment: astaxanthin, saw palmetto extract or beta sitosterol will lower DHT.

    High cortisol.
    Possible treatment: phosphatidylserine works well to reduce cortisol levels. Holy basil herb (Ocimum tenuiflorum) also lowers cortisol.

    Low blood sugar.
    This typically occurs first thing in the morning
    Possible treatment: presumably a snack of slow burning carbs.

    High histamine
    High histamine levels can cause irritability.
    Possible treatment: antihistamine tablets.

    High follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) and high luteinizing hormone (LH) levels can cause irritability.
    Possible treatment: progesterone cream can lower the amount of FSH and LH hormones released.

    High sodium levels can cause irritability. High sodium may come from high levels of salt (sodium chloride) in the diet; or perhaps from high amounts of supplements like sodium ascorbate or sodium bicarbonate.
    Treatment: reduce sodium intake.

    Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) deficiency can cause irritability.
    Treatment: supplement with vitamin B2.

    Vitamin B6 deficiency can cause irritability.
    Treatment: supplement with vitamin B6.

    Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause irritability.
    Treatment: supplement with vitamin B12.

    Magnesium deficiency can cause irritability.
    Treatment: supplement with magnesium.



    One of the best treatments I have found for irritability is very low dose amisulpride (12.5 mg to 25 mg daily). Amisulpride in very low doses is used as an antidepressant. Other effective anti-irritability supplements I found were: vinpocetine 20 mg (must be taken with food), royal jelly 3000 mg, vitamin B2 100 mg, estriol 0.2 mg (estriol comes as a cream you can put on the skin).
     
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  2. sensing progress

    sensing progress Senior Member

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    I often get irritable after eating anything with sugar in it, however I'm fairly certain its not from hypoglycemia. Any idea what other mechanism it could be? I believe I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome and that it may be related to this.
     
  3. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    Not sure. I'll have to think about it. Are you positive it is not some rebound hypoglycemia? You could test this easily by buying a low cost digital blood sugar level meter (you can get these amazingly cheaply), and testing your blood sugar say every 15 minutes after eating sugar, to see if there is some elevation and then rebound reduction in blood sugar level.

    The other thing I can think of is that the sugar is feeding some bad gut bacteria you may have, and causing an adverse reaction?
     
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    sensing progress Senior Member

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    Fairly sure. The reason I say that is I have a lot of experience with hypoglycemia and that irritability is like a crankiness but it can be controlled if I try hard. This other irritability I sometimes (but not nearly always) get when I eat certain sweet treats is a more profound irritability that feels different and more intense (hard to explain).

    That is a good idea and I think a distinct possibility. Any others have experience with this?
     
  5. merylg

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    Over-accumulation of Iron can cause irritability.

    Can occur from over supplementation with Iron and/or Vitamin C.
    Can be due to consumption of Iron fortified food.

    Can be due to Hereditary Hemochromatosis.
    http://www.haemochromatosis.org.au/symptoms.htm
     
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    I get irritable from hormonal stuff like birth control pills.

    I get irritable from benzos including benadryl which is similar to a benzo. And other CNS depressants.
     
  7. taniaaust1

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    You could have hyperinsulinemia (abnormally high insulin spikes/level). That can cause some to get very irritable (it can affect my moods if I eat carbs so badly that Ive actually smashed car windows.. I think Im extra sensitive to my own abnormally high insulin levels due to also having MCS?, so the combination of these two together appears to be quite bad for me).

    It is possible to have hyperinsulinemia without also having hypoglycemia and it would explain getting irritable after sugar (and possibly other forms of carbs too).

    Hyperinsulinemia is tested by 2 hr Glucose tolerance testing but with the insulin levels included. If you do have high insulin... it can also make other symptoms worst too eg I get less sore throats etc now that my doctors have got me on extremely low carb diet. Things like GERD, bloating if you have those, can also be caused solely by this issue.
     
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    PMS tends to be worst in ME/CFS people. That of cause can cause a lot of irritability. (I think we are far more sensitive to all our homones).
    .....

    Food intollerence reactions can also cause irritability. (one sees that a lot in kids and I guess it probably causes some of us issues too).
     

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